I've always heard rifle was legal to own carry, shoot in the states that allow it. And some states restrict sales or shipping of this ammo. But then for pistol might be a different story. I'm not knowledgeable enough to nail it down for you. This might help you get started until someone has more info to offer. I don't see anything on the GCO site about it.

http://gun.laws.com/ammunition/ammuniti ... ammunition

Currently there are eleven states that have barred the sale or possession of armor-piercing bullets: Alabama, California, Connecticut, Indiana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas.

Another reference
http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/07/29/arm ... cing-ammo/

It’s perfectly legal to possess, purchase, sell or shoot armor piercing ammunition. It’s not legal to manufacture or import armor piercing ammunition

 

No Georgia statute addressing it. The military cannot sell it to you unless for scrap or LEO use. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/4688

 

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG1.html

James Bardwell is a trustworthy source.

ATF has expressly ruled that SS109/M855 bullets are not covered.

The bullet must either have a core made ENTIRELY out of one or more of the listed metals, or be a full jacketed type bullet with a jacket comprising more that 25% of its weight. Thus SS109/M855 .223 (5.56mm) bullets would not be covered, because their core is only partly steel, and partly lead. Lead is not a listed metal, and bullets with cores made partly out of lead are OK.

 

Thanks, guys. It appears it is legal in GA to carry 5.7 x 28 SS190 AP then. Any criminal can now go on Ebay and buy a kevlar vest.....

 

Thanks, guys. It appears it is legal in GA to carry 5.7 x 28 SS190 AP then. Any criminal can now go on Ebay and buy a kevlar vest.....

Question is where do you find the 190 round? or any 5.7 right now?

 

Thanks, guys. It appears it is legal in GA to carry 5.7 x 28 SS190 AP then. Any criminal can now go on Ebay and buy a kevlar vest.....

Question is where do you find the 190 round? or any 5.7 right now?

My other question is why would you want to carry an AP rounds for your normal every day self defense gun?

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that it would be too over penetrative for me to carry as every day ammo.

Your chances of running into a mugger wearing body armor are about as likely as getting struck by lightning.

Your chances of shooting through a goblin and hitting the old lady or kid behind them in the parking lot/store/etc are a lot more likely....

Just my two cents.

 

My other question is why would you want to carry an AP rounds for your normal every day self defense gun?

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that it would be too over penetrative for me to carry as every day ammo.

Your chances of running into a mugger wearing body armor are about as likely as getting struck by lightning.

Your chances of shooting through a goblin and hitting the old lady or kid behind them in the parking lot/store/etc are a lot more likely....

Just my two cents.

I can not speak for the OP, but for myself muggers are not the only group people I am trying to defend myself against.

There is another group who almost always wears body armor and has a history of assaulting peaceful individuals who have not harmed another person or there property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_States

Your comments about over penetration is a very real concern and would be wise to be in integrated into an individuals training and tactics.

 

My other question is why would you want to carry an AP rounds for your normal every day self defense gun?

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that it would be too over penetrative for me to carry as every day ammo.

Your chances of running into a mugger wearing body armor are about as likely as getting struck by lightning.

Your chances of shooting through a goblin and hitting the old lady or kid behind them in the parking lot/store/etc are a lot more likely....

Just my two cents.

I'll second that. You're unlikely to encounter a self-defense situation that requires discharging you firearm, but if you do, the odds are that your target will not have body armor. Even if they do, discharging several rounds into their torso is going to hurt and likely produce a stunned reflex, getting you a chance to get to cover. I'd be more concerned about over-penetration as an SD shooting outside the home can happen in an environment where there are citizens that would make easy collateral damage from a round that over penetrates. An SD shooting isn't likely to afford you too much time to think about and adjust your backstop behind your target - especially for your initial shots.

If your initial shots don't drop your target, go for below the belt buckle or the head.

 

AP rounds are fun. "...shall not be infringed..." doesn't require a reason.

 

AP rounds are fun. "...shall not be infringed..." doesn't require a reason.

Correct, but just b/c something is and should be legal does not mean it's smart.

Carrying AP rounds in a carry weapon isn't responsible IMO. Anyway, I thought the 5.7 AP rounds were nearly impossible to get unless you're LE or Mil.

 

I expect that if you find yourself before a jury judging arguing the lawfulness of shooting an officer, going into the conflict with AP rounds in your EDC is going to put some barbed wire atop that already very high burden of proof.

 

Yeah well, they don't need to be made generally illegal in order to sentence someone for murdering a police officer using them.

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"... OMG! a fire extingusher! ... you could bash someone's head in with that! anic: ..."

 

My other question is why would you want to carry an AP rounds for your normal every day self defense gun?

My opinion (for what it's worth) is that it would be too over penetrative for me to carry as every day ammo.

Your chances of running into a mugger wearing body armor are about as likely as getting struck by lightning.

Your chances of shooting through a goblin and hitting the old lady or kid behind them in the parking lot/store/etc are a lot more likely....

Just my two cents.

I can not speak for the OP, but for myself muggers are not the only group people I am trying to defend myself against.

There is another group who almost always wears body armor and has a history of assaulting peaceful individuals who have not harmed another person or there property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_police_brutality_in_the_United_States

Your comments about over penetration is a very real concern and would be wise to be in integrated into an individuals training and tactics.

So you are saying that you want this kindd of ammo so that it can go through police body armmor and kills cops? You shoud be ashamed of yourslef, I sure as hell dont support that at all and you ain't doing nobody no favors in the citizen gun community.

WTF is up with this place anyway? I thought this was about peacfull folks carrying legal guns in a legal fashion for self defense, not plotting on what is the best ammo to use to kill cops. No wondr most Amercians don't supprt this kind of crap thnking, nothin but trouble here and aint nothing good gonna come of it ever. Hell this is just another reason why cops need to be better armed and shoot first. Now tht I read this crap about carrying ammo that can go thru vests to use against cops, cant say I would shed any tears if the cops took you out first.

Here is my 2 cents: This kind of talk is am embarrasment to every law abidin gun owner in my opinion. You make us all lookk bad.

 

"... OMG! a fire extingusher! ... you could bash someone's head in with that! anic: ..."

Not sure what you're arguing here?

No one is saying AP rounds should be illegal at all. Most are just saying carrying them in your EDC is probably not the smartest thing to do due to over penetration and lack of effectiveness in most SD situations.

 

I expect that if you find yourself before a jury judging arguing the lawfulness of shooting an officer, going into the conflict with AP rounds in your EDC is going to put some barbed wire atop that already very high burden of proof.

Thank you for saving me the keystrokes.

Personally I think you'd (op) do much better in spending that money towards more training & range time. Center mass is great because it's a big target, but it shouldn't be your only target or instinct. Pelvic & head shots are quite effective against body armor.

And if you think your best response to police brutality is a gun at all, let alone an AP round, all I can say is best of luck in what surely will not end well...

 

So you are saying that you want this kindd of ammo so that it can go through police body armmor and kills cops? You shoud be ashamed of yourslef, I sure as hell dont support that at all and you ain't doing nobody no favors in the citizen gun community.

WTF is up with this place anyway? I thought this was about peacfull folks carrying legal guns in a legal fashion for self defense, not plotting on what is the best ammo to use to kill cops. No wondr most Amercians don't supprt this kind of crap thnking, nothin but trouble here and aint nothing good gonna come of it ever. Hell this is just another reason why cops need to be better armed and shoot first. Now tht I read this crap about carrying ammo that can go thru vests to use against cops, cant say I would shed any tears if the cops took you out first.

Here is my 2 cents: This kind of talk is am embarrasment to every law abidin gun owner in my opinion. You make us all lookk bad.

Welcome to the club. Get used to it, there are always a "variety of opinions" here. Stick around and you'll find that the majority are pretty reasonable.

 

No one is saying AP rounds should be illegal at all.

http://gun.laws.com/ammunition/ammuniti ... ammunition

Currently there are eleven states that have barred the sale or possession of armor-piercing bullets: Alabama, California, Connecticut, Indiana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas.

Another reference
http://www.pagunblog.com/2007/07/29/arm ... cing-ammo/
[quote:2o0jx5ui]It’s perfectly legal to possess, purchase, sell or shoot armor piercing ammunition. It’s not legal to manufacture or import armor piercing ammunition

[/quote:2o0jx5ui]

 

Right, fighting the police with AP ammo wont help anyone but it will solve your concerns in the sense you wont be alive or breathing very long. My issue is you are supposed to know your target and beyond which is difficult when your bullets just flew through 2-3 of your neighbors homes. One way to really piss off the HOA

 

WTF is up with this place anyway? I thought this was about peacfull folks carrying legal guns in a legal fashion for self defense...

For the most part it is.

...not plotting on what is the best ammo to use to kill cops.

Who is plotting?

In my mind, the "root cause" is letting someone fallaciously couch the discussion in terms of "...the only reason for AP rounds is to kill cops..."

 

One way to really piss off the HOA

Keeps 'em distracted.

 

So you are saying that you want this kindd of ammo so that it can go through police body armmor and kills cops? You shoud be ashamed of yourslef, I sure as hell dont support that at all and you ain't doing nobody no favors in the citizen gun community.

CoffeeMate hit the nail on the head.

Who is plotting? In my mind, the "root cause" is letting someone fallaciously couch the discussion in terms of "...the only reason for AP rounds is to kill cops..."

 

AP rounds are fun. "...shall not be infringed..." doesn't require a reason.

I'm not saying that it shouldn't be LEGAL, or infringed, I was genuinely curious....

No one is saying AP rounds should be illegal at all. Most are just saying carrying them in your EDC is probably not the smartest thing to do due to over penetration and lack of effectiveness in most SD situations.

This. :righton:

 

Yeah, well let me hit one the head for ya. I'm saying they should be illegal. I'd vote YES to add Georgia to list of stats that ban that sort of ammo in a heartbet, if noithing else than just cause of what I am reading in this site. Aint no need for this ammo and certanlly a bunch of loonies thinkin it woulod be useful to kill certainly should never get their hands on it. Certainy should be rightfully banned if we are suggestinng using it to kill cops becaue YOU happen to not like what they are doing and think you are going to start some dumbass revvoltion.

I carry a gun to protect myself against criminals. And no, I don't believe cops are criminals, so dont even start that overplayed proopagenda BS with me. I aint gonna start engageing cops with guns no way no how, cause I want to live to see tomorrow. Cause you may take one or two out sure, but you are gonna die cause thje will kepp coming at ya. And they wold be right and justified too if you started shootin at them. Cause thinking you are gonna fix anything by shootiun at cops is just plain crazy, that aint the way to solve nothin except making yor wife a widow and your kids fatherlesss.

I was incountry in 69, ain't afraid to fight and I know too damn well what it means to kill. I had enough of it then and dont want to see it again if u want to knw the truth. Broke my back hauling a 60 and got a forever limp cortesy for all of my trouble. Praise jesus I just made it home again, just so I could be spit upon and cursed at by lovin flower children in my hometown. But even then, I didn fight in that cesspool so I could come hone and start killin police officrs, that is crazy talk. Goddamnit, this is AMERICA and we can do bettr than what is being said here today. I am ashamed I even am readinn this crap today even suggestin that this is a good idea to use to kill cops trhough their vests. You want to shoot people that are really trying to hurtt you? Dammit go join the militarry then and go after the real badd guys trying to kill us all, and put your butts on the line every day like our boys over there do.

I hope I never see noone shotting at a police officer cause it is wrong wrong worng. Honestly I am a peaceful man but if I ever saww tht I would probably step foreard and take the shot and put the shooter down, help that officerr and get am ambulamce for him if neded, and ask questionss later.

God Bless America, I fought for the freedome to be here and write this. I hope it forever is a place where law abiddin citizens here don't look to buy AP ammo and fantasize how usefiul it would be to kill policemen and policewomen here. Instead, hope the real heros among us step forward to help those police officers if needed and take down those who attmept to harm them if necesary.

 

<yawn>

Nothing says you have to go out and get yourself any of it.

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