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http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitec ... n/#slide=1

U.S. Army's 'Revolutionary' Rifle Now in Use in Afghanistan
Billed as a "game-changer," the XM25 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System has a range of roughly 2,300 feet -- nearly the length of eight football fields and well past the range of most modern rifles. And some U.S. Army units in Afghanistan began using the revolutionary rifle this month.
 

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Bah, humbug. It's nothing but an overgrown FRAG-12 round. :lol: :lol:
 

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One of my old PS3 games had this weapon in it and I remember it OWNING!

Sweet weapon. A bit pricey, and I'm not sure the cost outweighs the benefit of this. There are many other things that can be used to do this almost exact purpose.

I see special forces maybe needing this, but that's about it.
 

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Yeah yeah yeah...now let's see if it can handle the REAL world of combat. Sensitive fuses..electronic timers....programmable delays. Let's see how well you can program the delay and get it set CORRECTLY when someone is shooting RPG,s at you.

The more gizmo's and electronics you add the more likely it is to fail. (or the soldier using it) We'll see....
 

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Once the XM25's trigger is pulled and the 25-mm. round leaves the barrel, a computer chip inside communicates exactly how far it has traveled to the weapon system, allowing for precise detonation behind or ahead of any target.
I'm guessing that it would be against the Geneva Convention to use this feature on a person. I just know someone is going to want to shoot a guy and then wait for the round to go off. Would probably look like a fully body version of "Scanners".
 

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mathar1 said:
Yeah yeah yeah...now let's see if it can handle the REAL world of combat. Sensitive fuses..electronic timers....programmable delays. Let's see how well you can program the delay and get it set CORRECTLY when someone is shooting RPG,s at you.

The more gizmo's and electronics you add the more likely it is to fail. (or the soldier using it) We'll see....
Not to mention once you start dragging it through mud and rain, bang it against brick walls, and do all the other "bad things" grunts do to their weapons, all those fancy electronics might have issues.

It might work exactly as advertised, but until proven I'm a bit skeptical.
 

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Two Comments:
1-- It's probably against the international laws of modern warfare to shoot directly at an enemy soldier with an exploding bullet. But there's nothing in the rules against air-bursting a fragmentation round near him and dropping him with shapnel, is there? Air-burst (ground proximity fuzed) shells are a key component to counter massed troops on the ground, right?

2-- They have to come up with a better name for this gun, or GI's will think up something short and clever themselves.
The military brass are calling this the "counter-defilade" gun. So that means that it's made to take out enemies that are behind cover. Nice name, but few people are going to know what that funny french name means, and it's not an inspiring name. It's not like "Ma Deuce" or "Puff the Magic Dragon" or any other weapons system that has been renamed by the troops in the field.

How about calling it Defiler? As in, it defiles the enemy. That's a fairly mild way of putting it, but at least it plays off of the Pentagon's authorized name.

Maybe they could call it by some name for a similar -but-fictional weapon system on some popular video game like DOOM or HALO? I'm sure the video game company would grant a license to the Defense Department to let 'em use that name.
 

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Two Comments:
1-- It's probably against the international laws of modern warfare to shoot directly at an enemy soldier with an exploding bullet. But there's nothing in the rules against air-bursting a fragmentation round near him and dropping him with shapnel, is there? Air-burst (ground proximity fuzed) shells are a key component to counter massed troops on the ground, right?

2-- They have to come up with a better name for this gun, or GI's will think up something short and clever themselves.
The military brass are calling this the "counter-defilade" gun. So that means that it's made to take out enemies that are behind cover. Nice name, but few people are going to know what that funny french name means, and it's not an inspiring name. It's not like "Ma Deuce" or "Puff the Magic Dragon" or any other weapons system that has been renamed by the troops in the field.

How about calling it Defiler? As in, it defiles the enemy. That's a fairly mild way of putting it, but at least it plays off of the Pentagon's authorized name.

Maybe they could call it by some name for a similar -but-fictional weapon system on some popular video game like DOOM or HALO? I'm sure the video game company would grant a license to the Defense Department to let 'em use that name.
I suggest The Enshrapnelater. It's a perfectly cromulent word.
 

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Maybe they could call it by some name for a similar -but-fictional weapon system on some popular video game like DOOM or HALO? I'm sure the video game company would grant a license to the Defense Department to let 'em use that name.
R.Y.N.O from the Ratchet and Clank series.


 
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