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Wrenn v. DC

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SAF WINS PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION IN CHALLENGE TO NEW DC GUN LAW


http://www.saf.org/?p=6169

The case, Wrenn et al v. District of Columbia et al, was a follow-on case to Palmer v. District of Columbia and was filed after the DC City Council adopted their new carry regulations.

18 May 2015 | News & Releases
BELLEVUE, WA - The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) today won a preliminary injunction against the District of Columbia and Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier's enforcement of a requirement to provide a "good reason" when applying for a concealed carry permit.

Judge Frederick J. Scullin ordered that the city is "enjoined from denying handgun carry licenses to applicants who meet the requirements of D.C. Code 22-4506(a) and all other current requirements for the possession and carrying of handguns under District of Columbia law."

Judge Scullin further wrote in his 23-page opinion that the District's "good reason/proper reason" requirement "has far more than a 'de minimis' effect on [their] rights it completely bars the right from being exercised, at all times and places and in any manner, without exception" and that the requirement "impinges on Plaintiff's Second Amendment right to bear arms.'
SAF @2AFDN 25 minutes ago
SAF wins preliminary injunction in challenge to new DC gun carry ban #2A #RKBA #GunRights http://www.saf.org/?p=6169
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Dave Kopel @davekopel · 2h 2 hours ago
Fed.Ct. issues prelim. inj. against DC statute denying carry permits to almost everyone. Huge win for @alangura.
:righton: SAF & Gura

Nemo
D.C. weighing appeal of court ruling that loosens gun control law

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f733c4-fe2c-11e4-805c-c3f407e5a9e9_story.html

“We’re thoroughly reviewing the decision, looking at our options,†said Robert Marus, a spokesman for D.C. Attorney General Karl Racine. “The first option would be to ask Judge Scullin to stay his order pending an appeal,†Marus added.

The ruling guts a law that was passed in September that allowed police to use discretion in granting licenses to D.C. residents who applied to carry concealed firearms in public. Applicants had to show “good reason to fear injury to his or her person or property†or “any other proper reason for carrying a pistol,†such as employment transporting cash or other valuables.â€

D.C. Council Chairman Phil Mendelson (D), who drafted the law with mayoral and police officials, said Tuesday that lawmakers trod “very carefully†when they wrote the legislation, and that he believed the language of it remains “constitutionally defensible.â€

“I would hope that we would appeal the decision,†he said.
D.C. just got b*t*h slapped by Judge Scullin again!

John Richardson ‏@jpr9954 7 minutes ago
District Of Columbia Doesn't Get Its Stay http://dlvr.it/B0tVSH

Federal Judge Denies DC's Request to Immediately Stay Gun Ruling
Hearing on long-term stay scheduled for July 7


http://freebeacon.com/issues/federal-judge-denies-dcs-request-to-immediately-stay-gun-ruling/

May 28, 2015 12:00 pm

A federal judge on Thursday denied the District of Columbia's request for an immediate administrative stay on a ruling declaring part of the city's gun carry law unconstitutional.

In a ruling issued on May 18th, Judge Frederick J. Scullin said the District's requirement that applicants for a gun carry permit demonstrate a "good reason" to carry a gun violated the Second Amendment. The DC Attorney General's Office filed a request on May 26 for an immediate administrative stay in order to avoid issuing permits to those denied under the "good reason" clause while they filed an appeal.

Thurday's order rejects that request and schedules a July 7 hearing on whether to grant a long-term stay pending the city's appeal of the May 18 decision.
D.C. just got b*t*h slapped by Judge Scullin again!

John Richardson ‏@jpr9954 7 minutes ago
District Of Columbia Doesn't Get Its Stay http://dlvr.it/B0tVSH

Federal Judge Denies DC’s Request to Immediately Stay Gun Ruling
Hearing on long-term stay scheduled for July 7


http://freebeacon.com/issues/federal-judge-denies-dcs-request-to-immediately-stay-gun-ruling/
It's almost as if "shall not be infringed" had some meaning.
SAF Seeks Contempt Against District Of Columbia For Stall In Wrenn CCW Case
http://www.saf.org/?p=6233
27 May 2015 | News & Releases
BELLEVUE, WA - The Second Amendment Foundation is asking the federal court to force the District of Columbia to abide by a May 18 ruling requiring the city to drop its requirement to show a "good reason" before issuing concealed carry permits, or find the city in contempt.
Time for Congress to rescind the District Charter and try again.
Circuit Court Issues Stay on Lower Court's D.C. Gun Carry Ruling

Stay allows controversial 'good reason' clause to go back into effect

http://freebeacon.com/issues/circuit-court-issues-stay-on-lower-courts-d-c-gun-carry-ruling/

The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit issued an emergency administrative stay of a ruling against the current gun carry law in Washington, D.C., on Friday.

The stay allows the city to continue enforcing the "good reason" clause contained within the law while the court considers whether or not to grant a long-term stay covering the length of city's appeal.

The "good reason" clause, which was ruled unconstitutional by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia on May 18, lets D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier decide whether applicants have a good reason to carry a firearm. The city has said it does not consider high crime rates or a general desire for self-defense applicable reasons under their law.

The Circuit Court made clear in its order that the stay did not constitute a judgment on the merits of the case against the city's law or a sign of whether or not it might grant a long term stay on the District Court's ruling. "The purpose of this administrative stay is to give the court sufficient opportunity to consider the merits of the motion for stay and should not be construed in any way as a ruling on the merits of that motion," the order said.
Circuit Court Issues Stay on Lower Court’s D.C. Gun Carry Ruling

Stay allows controversial ‘good reason’ clause to go back into effect

http://freebeacon.com/issues/circuit-court-issues-stay-on-lower-courts-d-c-gun-carry-ruling/
The “good reason†clause, which was ruled unconstitutional by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia on May 18, lets D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier decide whether applicants have a good reason to carry a firearm. The city has said it does not consider high crime rates or a general desire for self-defense applicable reasons under their law.
Maybe if government gets too overbearing, government will allow the people to have arms? Is that really what they think the 2A meant? They seem to want to rule out everything else.
Maybe if government gets too overbearing, government will allow the people to have arms? Is that really what they think the 2A meant? They seem to want to rule out everything else.
No, they think it means they can ban guns. However a judge had said no, you must allow carry, so they went for this other way to not allow carry.
No, they think it means they can ban guns. However a judge had said no, you must allow carry, so they went for this other way to not allow carry.
They pass gun control laws. We say the laws are unconstitutional. The judge says no it doesn't infringe the second amendment, and there are no repercussions.
When infringements are called non-infringements words lose their meaning. As a result "freedoms" are not really freedoms.

This is just the way that the government maintains and increases its power over its subjects. If the subjects complain, all the government needs to do is to just point to the Constitution and say, "Silly people, see, here are your freedoms." But of course, "freedoms" has already been redefined.
They pass gun control laws. We say the laws are unconstitutional. The judge says no it doesn't infringe the second amendment, and there are no repercussions.
That's why I believe every judge should be elected not appointed!
The 2nd amendment was written to prevent every ****ing state from having it's own personal gun rights lawsuit to lose. And yet these retards in government have forced the stupid fight down our throats for the last 40-50 years anyway.

Sometimes I wish hell was real because every one of them deserves to go there forever. Glad to see D.C. has to pay for it's violations. Is carry there actually legal now? or is it restricted behind 'good reason' bull*****?

(I mean legal according to city laws, since it is obviously legal because of the 2nd amendment, and anyone who thinks differently is a traitor.)
It's legal now with a permit. It's "May Issue" (Good Cause) with lots of infringements/hoops to jump thru. There has only been less than 50 permits issued iirc.
It's still a circus there in DC: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/15/federal-appeals-court-voids-ruling-against-dcs-goo/

"A federal judge's ruling that barred the District from requiring gun owners to demonstrate a 'good reason' to obtain a concealed carry permit was vacated Tuesday by an appeals court that found the judge did not have authority to rule on the case...The case now will have to be sent back to the lower court and reassigned to a new judge."
"...and so, it keeps on grinding along..."
D.C. gun case gets new judge after appeals court ruling http://wtop.com/dc/2016/02/d-c-gun-case-gets-new-judge-after-appeals-court-ruling/

February 9, 2016 12:17 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) - A new judge has been assigned to oversee a case about the District of Columbia's strict gun laws.

Online records show the case was assigned Tuesday to Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who was appointed to the federal bench in Washington in 1997 by President Bill Clinton.

Kollar-Kotelly replaces Judge Frederick Scullin Jr., who was appointed by President George H.W. Bush. Scullin's initial ruling in the case had been in favor of the gun law's challengers.

In December, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that Scullin should not have been overseeing the case.
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