Would like your input

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Thorsen, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

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    Unfortunately, over the last several years I have sold off the major portion of my firearms collection, retaining only a Colt Commander 45 for myself, and a Chieftan Special 38 for my wife, along with other assorted long guns and shotguns. My Colt Mustang 380 and North American Arms 22 magnum were part of the collection I sold off, and were my concealed carry and pocket carry weapons, respectively.

    As I am beginning the process of obtaining my Georgia firearms permit, I am back to looking at weapons that would be good choices as a concealed carry firearm as I don't think the Colt Commander would adequately fulfill that role.

    Four of the weapons that I am looking at are the H&K P2000, the Glock 27, the Walther PPK and the CZ 75 P-01. Out of the four, the CZ 75 P-01 seems to fit the best in my hand, almost as if it were built strictly for my grip, but it does seem to have a lot of edges and such that could snag in a quick draw situation. The Glock 27, though, is more compact and rugged, although I don't know if I particularly like how my pinky finger falls under the magazine when I grip it. The H&K is a beautiful weapon that feels balanced and has a great brand name behind it, but I am not familiar with the trigger action as I have never used a LEM type trigger being most familiar with the action on my 1911 model 45. The Walther PPK seems to combine the small profile I am looking for with the firepower I desire, but to be honest I am not very familiar with this brand.

    So with all the information above, and with the knowledge you folks may have about these firearms, I would like to hear your input. Additionally, if there is a firearm I should be looking at as a possible concealed carry firearm, please point me in that direction so I may consider it as well.

    The only requirements I have currently for a concealed carry firearm are:
    (1) It should be easily concealable using an IWB or paddle setup
    (2) It should have as few snag areas as possible
    (3) It must be in at least 380 caliber, preferably 9mm or higher

    As this will be my CC weapon it will be my secondary firearm of use as I plan on OC whenever possible when I receive my permit and that weapon will be my trusty and familiar Colt Commander 45.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance.
     
  2. legacy38

    legacy38 Active Member

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    You can put a pinky extension on the magazine of the 27 that will cure that problem. You can even get them that add another round to the magazine. The mid sized 23 is pretty much as easy to conceal and gives you a bigger grip and four more rounds.

    Please note that I prefer 9mm to .40SW; so, my personal recommendation would be the 26 or 19 over the 27 or 23. :) Full disclosure demands that I do admit to owning and carrying a 27 though. :)
     

  3. asbrand

    asbrand Active Member

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    Get a nice Makarov. They are 9x18mm, fit well into a Fobus paddle holster, and conceal well.

    And are built like a Russian Tank. 8)

    I carry an E. German one.
     
  4. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Well, I certainly love CZ. My 75B SA was the first gun I ever bought and I had decided that a RAMI would be my first carry weapon. So you certainly wouldn't go wrong with the brand, though I would suggest you take a look at the RAMI, as the P-01 seems a bit big for CC. It's also an excellent weapon, and you can find a lot of information about it on the CZ RAMI message boards.

    You might also note that I used the phrase "had decided." I got a bit distracted by the HK P7 and ended up draining my gun funds. It's a blast to shoot and is wonderfully small (it's a little bigger than the PPK, but has a barrel that's almost twice as long). If you can make it up to the Bulls Eye in Cumming, I'd be more than happy to let you put a few rounds through it. I don't think I'll ever carry anything else unless I'm in the woods and worried about four-legged foes.
     
  5. ber950

    ber950 Active Member

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  6. tace

    tace New Member

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    I don't think you can go wrong with the Walther or the HK but there is also a new Walther PPS that has recently been introduced. Its a modernized version of the PPK build around the modern P99 frame. The advantage of the PPS is that its chambered in 9mm and 40S&W in a slim gun, similar to Kahrs.

    On a related note, you should probably check out the Kahr brand guns for CCW.
     
  7. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    S&W M&P COMPACT
    comes in 9mm & .40 cal.
     
  8. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    I carry my CZ PCR (identical to the P-01 without the rail) daily. I like the weight, the feel, and how good it shoots. I've never had a failure of any kind in ~3K rounds. I've only recently decided to replace the mag springs, but not out of any issues that I've had. CZ's tend to be under rated guns in my opinion and can easily stand up to the other more popular ones out there.

    I carry IWB without issue. I think the only potential snag point is the hammer. I currently use a Bianchi Pro 100 holster for IWB, and have recently ordered the K&D Laredo for OWB. The Bianchi is closed at the muzzle end.

    I like the fact that the PCR (and P-01) has 14 in the mag +1 in the pipe. I don't think you can go wrong with it.
     
  9. ls1ssdavid

    ls1ssdavid New Member

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    I was going to mention the same thing about the mag extension for the 27. I own a 23, I carry it everywhere. All depends on the size you want to deal with I guess.
     
  10. wsweeks2

    wsweeks2 New Member

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    The 19/23 are 1/2" longer and 1/2" taller than the 26/27. That's not even taking into account the difference in capacity between the 19/23.
     
  11. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Why? :?
     
  12. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    You do know that for every response, you're going to get a different recommendation, right?

    I love my Taurus PT140 Millennium Pro.

    LOVE IT.
     
  13. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh! I guess I should have read all the way to the bottom. Still, you ought to be able to conceal it just fine under a Brooks Brothers blazer or a slightly oversized T-shirt.
     
  14. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.gunweek.com/2003/feature0910.html
     
  15. GeorgiaGlocker

    GeorgiaGlocker Romans 1:16

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    I own a G23 and I shoot it as is. I have several LEO friends and they suggested that I learn to shoot it as is. No extension. So, that is what I did. I probably couldn't shoot the thing worth a flip with an extension on it now. The G23 is fairly easy to conceal. I usually carry IWB.
     
  16. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    And depending on what T.I.E. you're wearing...nobody will notice the gun.