Woman who shot Macon teen in head said it was self defense

Discussion in 'Georgia In the News' started by huntergregory_1, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    So if you go outside, and teens throw rocks at you, not property, can you shoot?

    Stoning is actually a method of execution.

    Is the shooting of Vernon Marcus Jr. justified? (he is in stable but critical condition)
     

  2. mrhutch

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    Her mistake was saying "maybe it wasn't the best decision to make".

    If you're going to pull the trigger, stick to your guns. They were violently assaulting her and she was in fear of her life and the life of her daughter. If David can take down Goliath with a stone, 3 grown "kids" can kill or seriously harm an adult with rocks as well. I'd have shot too, but it wouldn't have been "shooting in their direction", there'd be bodies on the pavement.
     
  3. Malum Prohibitum

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    mrhutch public relations company issues statement on behalf of Ms. Cannon, "I am only sorry I did not get more of those little bastards."


    :lol:
     
  4. mrhutch

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    Hey, if you're going to shoot, judicious marksmanship is a must.

    :shoot:

    Now the other little thugs will just keep throwing rocks at the house and grow up to be a general burden on society and probably ruin/end someone else's life along the way.
     
  5. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    She needs to shut the Hell up and get a experienced Lawyer. :-$
     
  6. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Are you asking for an opinion or reality?

    IMHO and only IMHO she should have shot them all justifiably.

    In reality there are other legal actions she should have taken into consideration.

    Are the police responsible for not arresting the teens instead of just telling them to not return to the street. Letting them off the hook several times without an arrest allowed them to continue their destruction and attacks on persons and property.

    She was attacked by the teens because she called the police for help. The police told them to go home and not return. Well they did only this time violently attacked in retaliation the person that made the call. If they had thrown rocks at the police they may have had the same fate. Only the police would not have been arrested and charged.

    Hopefully the ones that were not shot will think twice about dong this crap again.
     
  7. I think it was a bad shoot. She could have resolved this whole issue with video of them causing damage. They would have been charged with vandalism and case closed months ago.

    But as for this incident, she leaves the safety of her home to get into a verbal altercation then goes back in her home to retrieve a weapon (if I am understanding the facts) which she fires indiscriminately in their general direction. All this equates to a bad shoot imho.
     
  8. Siege

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    I have a nice scar from 76 stitches that it took to patch the hole in my cheek from where a ~15 year old kid threw a stick at me, and had a nice concussion to boot. According to the surgeon, I got seriously lucky, as it missed the most major nerve center, salivary gland, and artery in the left side of my face by mere millimeters due to the way the blunt object cause the flesh to tear. Also exceedingly lucky that one of the best and most respected reconstructive surgeons in the state on on-duty at the hospital that night.

    No, if you throw things at me, you're going to be looking at my firearm, because the only thing I'm throwing back is lead. Personally, I'd at least *try*, if the situation allows, to warn off my attackers before pulling the trigger (hence I've pointed my gun at someone in self-defense on three occasions, but never pulled the trigger because they obeyed my commands), but if you keep doing whatever it was you were doing to make me draw on you, you're going to find out quickly that "command" means "non-optional - consequences will apply".

    Frankly, I've never had much in the way of empathy with or pity for people who complain about getting shot for throwing rocks at people with guns, whether they're teenagers, or protesters: if you mean to hurt someone and/or make a statement, then either accept the consequences, or go all the way. You don't get to say "well, a rock isn't going to kill anyone! Not like bullets!"

    Then again, I don't believe in fist-fights either, especially not as a means of conflict resolution, and never have - and never will - accept the "it's just a simple fist fight, just duke it out and settle it." No. I will not fight you unless given no other choice. I'm not risking my health, well-being and ability to care for my family just so you can try and prove something. Might doesn't make right, nor does you being bigger, stronger, and more violent than I am.

    Still, hard to judge whether this was a "good shoot" without more information and all sides of the story, but it doesn't appear she gave any warning... not that I'm sure one was required if she was, in fact, under a hail of flying rocks... that's a forcible felony, right there, and nothing in the law requires us to tell someone who is committing said forcible felony we're about to shoot them. Fact of the matter is, they were engaged in assault with a (potentially) deadly weapon, and it's no different than if they'd been shooting at her, or throwing any other dangerous object.
     
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  9. mrhutch

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    Vandalism? They would have *maybe* gotten a written citation, and would have just been pissed off and vengeful like they were for having the cops called on them in the first place.
     
  10. Wegahe

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    Well they were caught in the act but the police instead of arresting them and charging them told them to go home and to not return to that street. So much for case closed months ago. Those young wannabe thugs disobeyed a direct order to not return. they continued to return and throw rocks and damage property. The last time they returned they not only attacked property but a person. The rock assault on a person was in retaliation for that person calling the police and getting them banned from the street. The parents and the police allowed this attack to take place by not actively punishing their behavior. The least the police should have done was to take them to their parents and have a talk about the situation. The best thing was to arrest and charge. Neither of which happened.

    We need to restore the defense of property to the GA code.
     
  11. Malum Prohibitum

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    A police officer friend of mine received a detached retina when a suspect unexpectedly threw a rock at him.
     
  12. Wegahe

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    A rock thrown at a person with intent to injure or kill is an aggravated assault because a rock can be a deadly weapon.
     
  13. moe mensale

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    That's not what the linked article is saying.

     
  14. moe mensale

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    This is now turning into a white on black crime. And the little "didn do nuthins" were just walking past the woman's house minding their own business when she opened up on them.

    http://www.macon.com/news/local/article126982689.html

     
  15. moe mensale

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    This ^ even more so because of the white on black BS.
     
  16. Clark

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    If she would have just kept her mouth shut, it would be more cut and dry.
     
  17. Bad shoot. She just shot at some kids near her home. Apparently any set of kids were ok for the shooter.
    "It wasn’t clear whether the people Cannon had accused of throwing rocks were the people she is said to have opened fire on."
    http://www.macon.com/news/local/article126982689.html
     
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  18. moe mensale

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    That's twice you've declared against the shooter just for being an irresponsible person. Maybe she is and maybe she isn't. There's a couple of different stories that show opposing viewpoints of what supposedly happened. Maybe we should wait for the cops to determine what actually happened before condemning the shooter to hell and patting the little rock chuckers on the head.
     
  19. Nemo

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    Yeah we need to do that. Everyone knows cops always get it right.

    Nemo