[moe mensale]

This is why there are still 2 states not called. They may never be formally called because it's all moot at this point. The votes will be counted and entered into some obscure record someplace.

NH was formally called for Clinton. MI has been fully counted but has not been called although Trump is ahead by 10-15,000 votes in all the sources I've seen. That would give him over 300 EC votes.

 

[Broadside Bob]

Even if we went to the popular vote, she's still (likely) lose..

As long as a majority is needed to win. Hils at 47.85% now, Trump at 47.23%, Johnson at 3.27%, Stein at 0.99%, and other at 0.64%.

Apologies to the Libertarians for these generalities, but I'd have to think that most of those voting for Johnson, would vote for Trump (assuming they would vote) in a national run-off if the Libertarian candidate has already lost.

Not suggesting the Electoral College be abolished, just pointing out to the Dems that there's a good chance the ball wouldn't bounce their way even if we did let them change the rules after the fact. Of course, there will ever be a shortage of arrogance on the Left.

I'm still shaking my head at the petition to tell the Electoral College to "do the right thing." Excuse me, 125+ million people already signed petitions; so sorry you don't like how that came out.

 

[AtlPhilip]

Apologies to the Libertarians for these generalities, but I'd have to think that most of those voting for Johnson, would vote for Trump (assuming they would vote) in a national run-off if the Libertarian candidate has already lost

I would not, and I do not know any who would. And Project538 polling suggests that they would split about 60/40 for Clinton.

 

[Rugerer]

Great write up on democracy. Author is only 21 too.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449650/democracy-electoral-college-senate

But the underlying attitude behind the piece is concerning - indeed, it reflects a very popular theory of democracy that is unworkable in practice and incoherent in theory, and that undermines confidence in our own quite ex

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449650/democracy-electoral-college-senate

 

[codegeek]

Why would a State do that and give up their influence in the outcome?

for the same reason the states gave up their influence over the central government by allowing the direct election of senators.

 

[phaed]

Right. There is a reason we are called the United States.

...instead of these united states

 

[NTA]

Fortunately the US is not a democracy.

Unfortunately we now elect senators, not as originally designed.