Who Needs a Gun with More than 10 Rounds at McDonalds?

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    From VCDL Alert:
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    6. Why do you need all those bullets anyway?
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    http://tinyurl.com/24py5y

    Why do you need to carry more than one magazine full of bullets?

    One of our members writes: "The McDonald's across the street from my house was the scene of a mob (20 to 30) beating Saturday. Just one more reason to have your gun on you with extra magazines. We always carry at least two extras with us at all times, but have often been asked why we feel we need to carry so many bullets, well I plan on cutting out the article to carry with me from now on."

    Victims beaten in gang attack
    By LILLIAN KAFKA
    lkafka@potomacnews.com
    Tuesday, August 7, 2007


    Two Dale City men were beaten with bottles in a McDonald's parking lot early Saturday morning by members of a local gang, the victims said.

    Prince William County police are looking for suspects involved in the mob assault, which occurred about 2 a.m. Saturday in the 2800 block of Dale Boulevard.

    No arrests have been made.

    Lerone Tate, 21, and Meko Williams, 23, said they were on their way home from Oasis, a bar in Woodbridge, when they stopped at McDonald's for some food.

    They saw a large group of people in the parking lot as Tate and Williams walked inside, they said.

    "When we came to the door they were pointing and saying 'yeah, there they go right there,' " William said.

    Tate said he and Williams, his sister's fiance, were surrounded by people who punched, pushed and beat them with bottles and a bat.

    The assault lasted about 15 minutes, the men said.

    They said the attack was unprovoked, but they recognized some of the people in the group as some who had an altercation with Williams' Younger cousin a few weeks ago.

    Some of them could have been members of a local gang called 5-5, they said. Police could not confirm the suspects' involvement in a gang.

    About 15 people followed his teenage cousin home after summer school a few weeks ago, Tate said.

    "I guess they were not satisfied," he said.

    The teenage cousin wasn't with them at McDonald's that night, but a different cousin was -- he ran inside to ask the employees at the restaurant to call 911.

    "I was hit with bats, a bottle," Tate said. They just attacked me, some 20 or 30 people punched me in my right eye, they kept punching me and hitting me knocked me to the ground."

    "We all was scared, but we had to fight for our life right there and nobody was going to help us," Williams said. "I had to pray my way through it, hoping I'd get to the car."

    The police never showed and it was not clear if anyone inside the restaurant ever called 911.

    A manager at McDonald's on Monday would not comment on the incident.

    Luckily for Tate and Williams the crowd of attackers retreated and the bloodied men drove home.

    Tate went to the emergency room where doctors stitched his right eyebrow and treated a gash under his right eye where a bottle sliced his face.

    Someone bit Williams on his neck and he had cuts on his face and the back of his head from bottles, he said.

    Officer D.J. Crawford took the report from Potomac Hospital.

    The incident is still under investigation, according to Officer Erika Hernandez, police spokeswoman.
     
  2. Sharky

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    sick sick sick,

    shame on somebody inside not calling police. And if they did call the cops, well we know the answer to that. I wonder what kind of neighborhood it is.

    Carrying isnt being paranoid, its being responsible for your safety when those who feel whats yours..... is theirs!
     

  3. Tinkerhell

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    I bet had somoene had a gun & fired a few rounds they woulnd't have need a re-load. I would bet that most of that mob would have dispersed.

    Or drawn their own weapons & the 10-15 people would have turned the folks into a seive....

    That is just a horrible situations to be in no matter what. Personally I would never go to a location late at night with a mob of people outside like that unless there were some sort of security already on hand, even then it would be questionable. I won't deny though I have been in a questionable food joint in the evening & been counting people to see if there were more people than rounds in the ol G19. :roll:
    I don't carry an extra mag. One of these days I might find myself a holster that has a side pouch or something for one but until then I'll have to hope my 16 rnds will at least be enough to get me back to my truck (for reloads) or well away from the fight.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    The really disturbing thing in the story is that it consists of a bunch of one sentence paragraphs.
     
  5. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    I thought I was the only one that noticed.
     
  6. phaed

    phaed New Member

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    i carry 60 rounds. on a good day, i've also got a BUG.

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  7. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    :shock: That's more rounds than I carried when I was a cop . . .
     
  8. M249

    M249 New Member

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    You didn't have to light someone up in your own place.
     
  9. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    Rammstein New Member

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    sweet baby jesus!
     
  11. b8fish

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    phaed -
    How do you like your CrossBreed holster? I always thought they looked real ugly, but that intellectually it appeared to have merit.
     
  12. phaed

    phaed New Member

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    i like em just fine. they take a bit to get conformed to your body, and a bit of trial and error on the clip placement. but, once you get it tailored to you, it's very comfortable and provides a nice draw.
     
  13. GeorgiaGlocker

    GeorgiaGlocker Romans 1:16

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    I noticed it too.
     
  14. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I was crying.
     
  15. jeepsterwannabe

    jeepsterwannabe New Member

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    I noticed the same thing.

    I wasn't going to say anything about it.


    After reading your comments, I changed my mind.

    Now, I am glad I noticed.
     
  16. asbrand

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    In 100+ weather, there is NO way I could carry that much equipment. :shock:

    I'm happy if I am able to just carry my gun...much less a spare mag.
     
  17. JiG

    JiG Awaiting censure

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    +1

    I had a similar incident happen to me about a decade ago similar to what the OP posted in Sandy Springs. I didn't get beat up, but almost. It was my impetus to carry.
     
  18. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    These things would not happen with frequency if these people had a clear idea that more than three percent of the population was carrying.
     
  19. AeroShooter

    AeroShooter New Member

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    So where does the memory stick fit into your PD loadout?

    :)
     
  20. phaed

    phaed New Member

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    wear it around my neck. i'm a commo geek...so that thing is more important than my weapon *most* of the time.

    as for the 60 rounds...it sounds like a lot, but it's only 3 magazines, which is pretty common for cc'ers. that particular handgun just happens to have high capacity (20 per). some folks claim it's a pretty weak stopper, so i may need them. i carry it because i can shoot it more accurately than anything else i own.