White teen girl aimed to attack black Georgia church

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  1. phantoms

    phantoms Senior Mumbler

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  2. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    Good thing the Second Amendment is infringed upon, and she was unable to get firearms to pull off her massacre.
    If teenagers cant buy Uzis and Dracos and Glox from vending machines, our rights are being repressed.

    So she assembled an arsenal of edged weapons instead.
     

  3. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Considering she's under 18, I wonder if she got her "arsenal" from the cutlery draw or did she actually buy them herself?
     
  4. phantoms

    phantoms Senior Mumbler

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    I assumed she intended to use firearms. The article didn't mention knives but reading the story on another news site after seeing knives mentioned here stated that she had amassed kinives.

    Since this makes this off topic for Georgia In The News forum, can a moderator move it to the Off Topic forum for me?
     
  5. mrhutch

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    if our rights were uninfringed, she'd be more likely to be met with equal or superior firepower should she attempt such things.

    predators prefer unarmed prey. the more folks that are armed, the fewer folks want to threaten them.
     
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  6. Malum Prohibitum

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    Anybody find what her charge is? Which crime did she commit? I imagine (speculate, based on nothing at this point) her defense could be that she likes to write up elaborate and horrific fantasies, and that is not a crime.

    Similarly, even in conspiracy, there must be a step taken toward committing the crime about which the group is conspiring. Talking about it is not a crime.
     
  7. jsaund22

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  8. DonT

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    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/ha...ople-at-predominantly-black-church/1010260703

    "Parrish told Channel 2’s Tony Thomas the 16-year-old took substantial steps toward carrying out her attack. He said she collected knives, scoped out the church and attempted to get inside at least once."

    "Police said they were able to stop the attack after the girl mentioned her plans to her fellow Gainesville High School students. Students told school administrators that the girl had a notebook containing "detailed plans to commit murder." Administrators notified school resource officers of the plan on Friday and opened an investigation."
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

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    From your link:

    The teen was charged as a juvenile with criminal attempt to commit murder and taken to the Gainesville Regional Youth Detention Center. ​
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

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    A person commits the offense of criminal attempt when, with intent to commit a specific crime, he performs any act which constitutes a substantial step toward the commission of that crime.
    OCGA § 16-4-1
     
  11. Wegahe

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    I suppose the substantial step would include the notebook with the detailed plan on how it was going to be accomplished.
     
  12. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    Preparation is not the same as attempt.
    A person can plan, scheme, organize, obtain the gear and tools necessary for a crime, but until D-day and they actually start to carry it out, it's not attempt.

    QUOTE FROM RECENT APPELLATE CASE IN GEORGIA, overturning a guy's conviction for "attempted robbery" when he was merely found to be lurking suspiciously in front of the store, and, upon questioning by cops, found to have a weapon and a demand note.

    QUOTE from :
    Rainey v. The State.
    A16A0675
    Decided: July 13, 2016

    Under Georgia law, “n order to constitute the offense of attempt to commit a crime, the accused must do some act toward its commission.” (Punctuation omitted.) Groves v. State, 116 Ga. 516 (42 SE 755) (1902); see OCGA § 16-4-1.

    ‘Commission’ means the act of committing, doing, or performing the act of perpetrating ․ Mere acts of preparation, not proximately leading to the consummation of the intended crime, will not suffice to establish an attempt to commit it. ․ Between the preparation for the attempt, and the attempt itself, there is a wide difference. The preparation consists in devising or arranging the means or measures necessary for the commission of the offense. The attempt is the direct movement towards the commission after the preparations are made.
     
  13. smn

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    Perhaps the charge is to get her in the system and scare her a little, then after a bit of time and expense the charges are dropped. Hints about doing such vile acts are not anymore taken lightly.

    Shamelessly taken from the movie National Treasure "Somebody has to go to jail."
     
  14. mrhutch

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    I'm surprised they aren't charging her with terroristic threats.
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

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    Does not meet the elements of that offense.
     
  16. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    If that is the case, then we have a serious problem with law enforcement in that county.

    Maybe there is more information that they have not yet released.
     
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    “My Creative Writing attempt”
     
  18. phantoms

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    In one of the articles I read that she went on Wednesday to commit the crime but the church was empty so she decided on a weekend attempt but was arrested beforehand. If that's true, then going on Wednesday could of been the attempt part.
     
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    https://www.wsav.com/news/local-new...-sentenced-planned-to-kill-black-churchgoers/

    A white 17-year-old girl has been sentenced to four years in juvenile detention for what authorities said was a plot to kill churchgoers because they were Black.

    News outlets report that the girl pleaded guilty to attempted murder as part of a plea agreement and was sentenced Thursday in Gainesville, Georgia.

    She will be on probation for 10 years and cannot go near any African Methodist Episcopal church during that time.

    The Times of Gainesville reports that she sobbed while reading an apology.

    She was a 16-year-old high school student when she was arrested in November 2019.
     
  20. Phil1979

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    So sentenced as a juvie. However, does being on probation mean she won't be eligible for a GWL at 21, even though she was not charged as an adult?