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Had a gun on its cover that was not a .45 ACP? For those who read the magazine, 85% of all articles are about this caliber guns.

BTW, as far as handguns in combat, few if any military units around the world use this caliber as their handgun caliber. I know there are a few "exception" units in the US Army, but no other Army I know of adopted and kept it as their main round. Most Combat units around the world use 9mm to this date.

I am not arguing the capacity of the round, I am a bit miffed that all handgun journalists seem to think that only the "Macho .45" is worth writing about. The "Macho .45" line is straight from the cover of CH mag. This same fate is about to happen to Guns and Ammo magazine, too. Now that they have a new editor who won't shoot anything but 1911s and 357 Magnums.

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Most .45acp shooters are 1911 snobs. It is just silly how much press the same gun, made by different companies, gets.

Don't get me wrong, I shoot both 9mm and .45acp, and I appreciate the values of both cartridges, but I also agree that the 1911 gets far too much press.
 

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As far as Combat Handgun's go, let's look at the real front runners; CZs, Glocks, Sigs, HKs are pretty much the most common "Combat" handguns that I know of.
 

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You're right, but think about it. Most of these gun writers are older gentlemen. They used the 1911 when it was a "combat" pistol. That's all they know, all they trust, and seems to be all they write about.
 

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Hmmm... Let see...

Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
 

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Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
Actually, it has been deployed and proven in multiple wars, just not with US military.

Then again, it says something when US Govt chooses to buy them for Iraqi forces instead of Berettas M9s or 1911s.
 

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Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
Then again, it says something when US Govt chooses to buy them for Iraqi forces instead of Berettas M9s or 1911s.
It sure does! I certainly wouldn't want to give them a real weapon considering thee number of them that end up in the hands of the bad guys!
 

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tace said:
[quote="USMC - Retired":x5xlii73]
Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
Then again, it says something when US Govt chooses to buy them for Iraqi forces instead of Berettas M9s or 1911s.
It sure does! I certainly wouldn't want to give them a real weapon considering thee number of them that end up in the hands of the bad guys![/quote:x5xlii73]

What's Gunny going to do when the Army issues Glocks?
 

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Well the 1911 is the best design ever made. It should be written about ... and praised .... and lauded .... and bowed down to ... and, well you get the drift.
I saw you praising, lauding and bowing down to your 1911 quite a bit at our class. :D
 

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tace said:
[quote="USMC - Retired":16sq1w0d]
Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
Then again, it says something when US Govt chooses to buy them for Iraqi forces instead of Berettas M9s or 1911s.
It sure does! I certainly wouldn't want to give them a real weapon considering thee number of them that end up in the hands of the bad guys!
What's Gunny going to do when the Army issues Glocks?[/quote:16sq1w0d]

Make fun of the Army, just like normal. The Army is always doin stupid stuff. The Corps will never issue Glocks.
 

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tace said:
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Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
Actually, it has been deployed and proven in multiple wars, just not with US military.

Then again, it says something when US Govt chooses to buy them for Iraqi forces instead of Berettas M9s or 1911s.
I thought we were giving the Iraqi forces the S&W Sigmas because nobody else wanted to buy them.
 

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Yes siree.............................

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Hmmm... Let see...

Gun that has been produced and praised for 100 years or a plastic abomination that has been around 25 years and has NEVER proven itself in combat.
+1 Gunny.
Although we do have to let the kids have their own friends to play with.
Remember" old age and trechary will always beat youth and cunning".
and for you younger farts, not all of us 1911 lovers are snobs, although it would be easy to turn to the snobbery when you have such a well engineered piece.......... Sorry I get carried away sometimes.
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TonyG said:
Thorsen said:
Well the 1911 is the best design ever made. It should be written about ... and praised .... and lauded .... and bowed down to ... and, well you get the drift.
I saw you praising, lauding and bowing down to your 1911 quite a bit at our class. :D
Heheh, you guys probably didn't notice because I was trying to stay calm, but I was ready to throw that damn thing into the woods. After all the work either I did, or I paid a gunsmith to do, and the stinking thing still wasn't working as intended .... well I was a little frustrated to say the least. Thankfully, though, having the extractor retuned seems to have completely fixed the last of the problems I was experiencing, and since that weekend I have ran almost 500 rounds through it with no FTF, jamming or other errors in function.

The plus side to it all, is that with all the work I have had done to the thing it is probably in better shape now than it was the day I bought it.

Even with all the problems I had that weekend the 1911 is still my favorite platform, and the .45 is still my favorite caliber. Its probably because of all the years that I have owned and shot a 1911 in .45 caliber, but no other weapon feels as comfortable to me or as substantial.
 
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