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What do you think of lead free rounds?

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Like the Barnes TAC-XP Lead Free

A hard hitting round featuring Barnes' excellent TAC-XP bullet. 100% weight retention and extreme expansion make this one of the best defensive bullets available!
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An expensive solution to a non-existant problem.
100% weight retention? Can't get that with traditional rounds, and they claim better expansion.
Is this a gimmick or are these better performing on adversaries than a typical lead, jacketed bullet?

http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_178&product_id=239

A hard hitting round featuring Barnes' excellent TAC-XP bullet. 100% weight retention and extreme expansion make this one of the best defensive bullets available!

Caliber : 10mm

Bullet : 155gr. Barnes TAC-XP

Ballistics : 155gr. @ 1400fps / 675ft/lbs- Glock 20
1281fps / 564ft lbs 50yds. Glock 20
Glock 29 - 1345fps
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Stoddards Atlanta used to have a sheet with rounds they fired into ballistics gel. They also showed the before and after weighs. The Barnes Tac-XPd had great expansion and 100% weight retention. I switched my 9mm carry to them.
Gimmick mostly. The ballistics tests are often botched by folks that do them on a limited basis. Expansion and weight detainment are not as necessarily intertwined as they present. Some fragmentation can be a good thing if penetration is sufficient. Fragmentation can make trauma treatment much harder because bleeding is more difficult to control potentially.
I know that I sure don't want a mugger or robber to die a slow death from lead poisoning after he/she gets perforated and bleeds out. :)

I agree it is a gimmick. The goal of marketing is often to sell a solution to a problem that they create.
I think the solid copper ones shaped like a phillips screwdriver on the end have the potential to penetrate body armor, especially in 9x25 Dillon, since they do not expand (and expansion is a means that body armor uses to stop a round). That's a 10mm round necked down to 9mm. There are conversion barrels you can drop into a Glock 10mm.

Something to consider if terrorists wearing armor try to shoot up a place. If they are 50' away you might not be able to get a head shot, so send several 9x25s their way, and that should stop them, or at least impact enough to take the wind out of them.
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