Georgia Firearm Forums - Georgia Packing banner

1 - 20 of 21 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,117 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Clink the link... Welcome to Florida
Perhaps we can get one for entering Georgia, too.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,405 Posts
that is an awesome sign
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,849 Posts
smn said:
Clink the link... Welcome to Florida
Perhaps we can get one for entering Georgia, too.
Epic! :righton:

Where is that? I haven't seen it coming home to FL on I-75.

Shows how out of touch the Brady Campaign is, thinking that deadly force a bad thing... Besides, most of the people *driving* into florida will be coming from GA, SC, TN, AL, and other gun-friendly states (NJ and NY are a ways away...). 90% of the people reading that sign probably say "damn straight!" when they see it.

Who exactly is the target audience of that sign?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
123 Posts
Campeck1911 said:
That is a great sign! Everything has been said. They really don't know how to market their side. lol
Thats funny they would put that sign up.?
 

·
Lawyer and Gun Activist
Joined
·
28,139 Posts
I think it's a valuable service the Brady Campaign is providing. All the southern states need such a billboard to warn residents of disarmed socialist states and big-city cesspools of crime to mind their behavior when dealing with locals, who may be armed.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,258 Posts
What the Brady campaign refuses to accept: There's not a state in the union that doesn't allow deadly force to be used to protect one's life or the life of someone else.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,568 Posts
We should copy it exactly, but replace the BC logo with GCO :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,286 Posts
i have trouble understanding the intended message of this sign. im sure they probably didnt intend for it to be interpreted the way we are interpreting it.
 

·
Seasteading Aficionado
Joined
·
44,896 Posts
:rotfl2: Did they actually mean that to be a negative sign? Because the way I read it, it sounds like a great thing!

Brady idiots...

That sign is awesome, I hope we can get one!
 

·
Seasteading Aficionado
Joined
·
44,896 Posts
commodore_dude said:
We should copy it exactly, but replace the BC logo with GCO :)
There used to be a huge billboard that was at I-20 and Highway 1 in South Carolina that had a similar message from their gun rights group.

I was impressed. I looked last time, I didn't see it. :(
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,038 Posts
I bet the couple killed at the rest stop wished some armed citizens would have been around the night they died. After their death the rest stops became patrolled at night. I've seen off duty leos sleeping on the job while "protecting" us. I cc'd into the toilet and left before he awakened. I felt safe.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,667 Posts
all it takes is $$, I have a good friend in the billboard business.....get that cash out and you can have one
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,771 Posts
RickN said:
RecoveringYankee said:
WARNING: New Jersey residents can NOT use deadly force.
Really? If someone breaks into my house and shoots at me, I cannot shoot back? :?:
Well, yeah, you can. Maybe. In your own home, you have some latitude, although you better be able to justify it. You have to have a reasonable belief you were in danger of death or serious injury.

Outside the home, forget it. If you have a way of retreat, you have an affirmative duty to take it.

2C:3-4. Use of Force in Self-Protection.

a. Use of force justifiable for protection of the person. Subject to the provisions of this section and of section 2C:3-9, the use of force upon or toward another person is justifiable when the actor reasonably believes that such force is immediately necessary for the purpose of protecting himself against the use of unlawful force by such other person on the present occasion.

b. Limitations on justifying necessity for use of force.

(1) The use of force is not justifiable under this section:

(a) To resist an arrest which the actor knows is being made by a peace officer in the performance of his duties, although the arrest is unlawful, unless the peace officer employs unlawful force to effect such arrest; or

(b) To resist force used by the occupier or possessor of property or by another person on his behalf, where the actor knows that the person using the force is doing so under a claim of right to protect the property, except that this limitation shall not apply if:

(i) The actor is a public officer acting in the performance of his duties or a person lawfully assisting him therein or a person making or assisting in a lawful arrest;

(ii) The actor has been unlawfully dispossessed of the property and is making a reentry or recaption justified by section 2C:3-6; or

(iii) The actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death or serious bodily harm.

(2) The use of deadly force is not justifiable under this section unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death or serious bodily harm; nor is it justifiable if:

(a) The actor, with the purpose of causing death or serious bodily harm, provoked the use of force against himself in the same encounter; or

(b) The actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating or by surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto or by complying with a demand that he abstain from any action which he has no duty to take, except that:

(i) The actor is not obliged to retreat from his dwelling, unless he was the initial aggressor; and

(ii) A public officer justified in using force in the performance of his duties or a person justified in using force in his assistance or a person justified in using force in making an arrest or preventing an escape is not obliged to desist from efforts to perform such duty, effect such arrest or prevent such escape because of resistance or threatened resistance by or on behalf of the person against whom such action is directed.

(3) Except as required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, a person employing protective force may estimate the necessity of using force when the force is used, without retreating, surrendering possession, doing any other act which he has no legal duty to do or abstaining from any lawful action.

c. (1) Notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S.2C:3-5, N.J.S.2C:3-9, or this section, the use of force or deadly force upon or toward an intruder who is unlawfully in a dwelling is justifiable when the actor reasonably believes that the force is immediately necessary for the purpose of protecting himself or other persons in the dwelling against the use of unlawful force by the intruder on the present occasion.

(2) A reasonable belief exists when the actor, to protect himself or a third person, was in his own dwelling at the time of the offense or was privileged to be thereon and the encounter between the actor and intruder was sudden and unexpected, compelling the actor to act instantly and:

(a) The actor reasonably believed that the intruder would inflict personal injury upon the actor or others in the dwelling; or

(b) The actor demanded that the intruder disarm, surrender or withdraw, and the intruder refused to do so.

(3) An actor employing protective force may estimate the necessity of using force when the force is used, without retreating, surrendering possession, withdrawing or doing any other act which he has no legal duty to do or abstaining from any lawful action.

L.1978, c.95; amended 1987, c.120, s.1; 1999, c.73.
A lwayer adds....

The use of deadly force may be justified only to defend against force or the threat of force of nearly equally severity and is not justifiable unless the defendant reasonably believes that such force is necessary to protect (himself/herself) against death or serious bodily harm.

.....

"The use of force is justifiable...only if the actor first requests the person against whom such force is used to desist from his interference with the property, unless the actor reasonably believes that (a) such request would be useless; (b) it would be dangerous to himself or another person to make the request or (c) substantial harm will be done to the physical condition of the property which is sought to be protected before the request can effectively be made.

.....

The use of deadly force is not justifiable in the defense of premises unless the actor reasonably believes that:
(a) The person against whom the force is used is attempting to dispossess him of his dwelling otherwise than under a claim of right to its possession; or
(b) The person against whom the force is used is attempting to commit or consummate arson, burglary, robbery or other criminal theft or property destruction; except that
(c) Deadly force does not become justifiable under subsections (a) and (b) unless
(i) The person against whom it is employed has employed or threatened deadly force against or in the presence of the actor; or
(ii) The use of force other than deadly force to prevent the commission or the consummation of the crime would expose the actor or another in his presence to substantial danger of serious bodily harm."

These are taken from portions of the Model Jury Charges - Criminal, Third Edition, published by the New Jersey Institute for Continuing Legal Education.
Want to have all that running through your mind when faced with a thug wanting to take your stuff?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
364 Posts
I do not get this tactic at all. Are they implying that there are states where one is not allowed to defend themselves with deadly force? Even in NYC if someone invades your home and attacks you and you pick up a knife and kill them I would think they allow some sort of self defense argument.

I would think the vast majority of those reading that sign as they sped by it would think it was a warning to BGs rather the family tourist.

Are there really people against self defense? I know plenty of moms who are not comfortable with firearms but would pull your head off if you tried to harm their kids.

Does the General populous understand what is refereed to by TBC as "deadly force"?
 
1 - 20 of 21 Posts
Top