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I don't ever want to hear Governor Kaine piously disdaining political activism on the Virginia Tech incident again. He has now gone way over the top on political activism.

Governor Kaine gave the panel investigating the Virginia Tech shooting incident its marching orders on Monday: Kaine let it be known that he expects the panel to recommend more gun control - including ammunition control!

First Kaine does not invite any gun rights groups to be on the panel, and now he's telling the panel what he wants the panel to conclude.

The results of that panel, if it includes gun or ammunition control, will be tainted and should be dismissed as a farce on the people of Virginia.

What won't the panel do? With Kaine pushing a gun and ammunition control agenda and Kaine having said that "allowing students to carry weapons on campus would be a 'disaster'", the panel isn't going to recommend a solution that WOULD have made the VT campus safer: allowing both adult students and staff with CHPs to carry concealed on campus.

Utah and Colorado already allow such carry and it works just fine, no problems, no 'disasters.'

'Disaster' - that's the same baloney that we heard when Virginia was trying to pass 'shall-issue' permits in 1995. There was going to be blood in the streets, people would be dropping like flies, arguments would be settled by shooting somebody, etc.

It was BS then and it is BS now.

Clearly Kaine doesn't trust Virginia's adult college and university students with CHPs, who carry guns everywhere else but on campus.
These are not immature kids, Governor Kaine. They are grownups.
Many your age, Governor. Some have been to war and back. Some are mothers who have to go to school at night.

We need to let our voices be heard on this issue loud and clear.
Mark your calendars for June 11th, as the next nearing will be in Northern Virginia. We need people to speak to the panel in support of the right of students to defend themselves and against Kaine's attempt to preordain the results of the panel!

It is particularly important to have college and university students speak.

We do not have the time nor the location yet of that panel hearing, as they have not yet announced those details.

As soon as we have the details, I will advise you.


Besides tainting the panel, Kaine's suggestions that somehow the amount of ammunition possessed by the Commonwealth's 3 million gun owners should be monitored is ludicrous.

What is he suggesting - that the police spot check our homes? Is he just going to pull a number out of thin air and say that more than "X" rounds of ammo is evil or requires some kind of permit?

Cho had 377 rounds. Not much for those of us who do any real target practice. That's one or two afternoon's worth of shooting.

On top of that, .22LR ammo is often sold in 'bricks' of 500 rounds and costs less than $20! A brick is just a single box of ammo and contains far more rounds than Cho had that fateful day.

Many people buy in bulk to save on shipping costs. It's not unusual to buy over 1,000 rounds at a time. Five trips to the range, shooting a modest 200 rounds per trip (around one or two hours worth of fun) and it's all gone.

Gun control - no logic, no gain, just emotion and sound bites.

Kaine seems to be rocking really fast on his political hobby horse.

Here's the article, ACTION ITEMS follow it:

Kaine wants lawmakers to change Va.'s gun laws May 23, 2007 8:34 AM (8 hrs ago) by Joe Rogalsky, The Examiner

Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, center, addresses the first session of the Virginia Tech Review Panel in Richmond, Va., Thursday, May 10.
Virginia Tech president Charles Steger is seated left as the eight-member panel studying the shooting rampage held its first public meeting. On Tuesday, Kaine said he is hopeful the General Assembly will overcome its affection for firearms and adopt changes to the commonwealth's gun and ammunition laws.

Manassas - Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said Tuesday he is hopeful the General Assembly will overcome its affection for firearms and adopt changes to the commonwealth's gun and ammunition laws in response to the April 16 murders at Virginia Tech.

Kaine would not discuss specific changes he would like to see or legislation he thinks would be palatable to the General Assembly.
Though Northern Virginia legislators tend to support stricter gun-control bills, lawmakers from more rural and conservative regions routinely defeat such legislation.

A bill to ban guns in libraries, for example, was quickly killed in a House of Delegates committee this year.

Kaine already has issued an executive order requiring that law enforcement receive additional mental health information about individuals applying for a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Beyond that, he said Tuesday, he will wait for recommendations from a panel investigating the massacre in which a gunman killed 32 students and faculty members before committing suicide.

"The recommendations should be ready in August, and that will give legislators plenty of time to look at the suggestions and talk to members of the commission," the governor told reporters. "We don't go back into legislative session until January, so there's a lot of time to work on this. I think we can get something done."

In general, Kaine said, he is troubled that Virginia law allows any individual to stockpile ammunition with no way for authorities to monitor the cache. Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech gunman, began his rampage with 377 rounds of ammunition, according to police. He also said college presidents and police chiefs have told him that allowing students and faculty to carry weapons on campus "would be a disaster."

State law allows institutions of higher learning to decide whether to allow firearms on campus and inside buildings. A pro-gun student group has recently formed at George Mason University to advocate for a change in school policy and state law.

"We need the legislature to step in and tell the institutions of higher learning they have to allow law-abiding, licensed citizens to carry their weapons," said Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League.

The governor was in Manassas to attend a ceremony at the site of the new state crime laboratory.



Let's leave a message for Governor Kaine at:


and let him know politely, but firmly, that

1) His suggestion on 'ammunition' limits is ridiculous
2) He should not tell a supposedly independent panel what their conclusions are suppose to be and
3) Adult students and staff with concealed handgun permits SHOULD be allowed to carry on college campuses!

After calling and leaving your message, you can follow up with an email to the Governor using the following web form: ... vernor.cfm

And, finally, here is a link where you can give the VT Panel your suggestions. Item #3 above is a good place to begin your comments:

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Of the eight members three are retired law enforcement, one is Tom Ridge, two are women, and the last is an old gink who admitted he really doesn't know why he's there.

With that makeup and 'Emperor' Kain's previous actions, VA is going to be worse than IL.
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