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has anyone tried to use their wcl to vote? I was at first refused when I presented it. Asked to see the registrar. She called the state and they told here it was at her discretion. I thought I saw somewhere that any state issued id would be accepted. Any leads or info appreciated.
 

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I have used mine every time since they changed them
 

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Thanks. Any info on where in the law I can find it is acceptable? Butts co. seemed hesitant to accept it. Registrar said state told her it was at her discretion. I'm not comfortable with discretionary decisions.
 

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Applicable GA law is OCGA 21-2-417:

21-2-417. Presentation of identification to poll workers; form of proper identification; swearing of statement when unable to produce proper identification; provisional ballots for those; penalty for false statement under oath

(a) Except as provided in subsection (c) of this Code section, each elector shall present proper identification to a poll worker at or prior to completion of a voter's certificate at any polling place and prior to such person's admission to the enclosed space at such polling place. Proper identification shall consist of any one of the following:

(1) A Georgia driver's license which was properly issued by the appropriate state agency;

(2) A valid Georgia voter identification card issued under Code Section 21-2-417.1 or other valid identification card issued by a branch, department, agency, or entity of the State of Georgia, any other state, or the United States authorized by law to issue personal identification, provided that such identification card contains a photograph of the elector;

(3) A valid United States passport;

(4) A valid employee identification card containing a photograph of the elector and issued by any branch, department, agency, or entity of the United States government, this state, or any county, municipality, board, authority, or other entity of this state;

(5) A valid United States military identification card, provided that such identification card contains a photograph of the elector; or

(6) A valid tribal identification card containing a photograph of the elector...
GA secretary of state also has put out a couple of publications, like this one: http://sos.ga.gov/admin/files/GAIDreqbrochure.pdf
 

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They just have to manually enter your info vs scanning the back of a DL
 

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Is there an advantage to using your GWCL as opposed to your drivers license?
 

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Is there an advantage to using your GWCL as opposed to your drivers license?
Not at all. It is making a point that you can, and that's about it. But it will likely delay your vote, it will probably get questioned and scrutinized, until the poll manager figures out it is okay.
 

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So why not just use your drivers license and be the grey man? Use the GWCL for what it is intended, an ID that allows you to carry. I will never tip my hand that I am possibly armed by using the license as a primary ID for something that will likely cause an issue. Actually the only time I will use the license to identify my self is to a police officer if there is a valid reason to produce the GWCL.
 

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why

Why use a GWL as your I.D. when you could show your DL instead?

Maybe because if every GWL holder did this, the idea of toting a gun would not be so shocking to some people. The general public has no clue how many good, law-abiding citizens carry guns in public already. Why don't they know about this? Because the guns are usually concealed, and the gun-packers don't go around waving their carry permits at every opportunity.

So you could say that showing the GWL when the opportunity presents itself is a way of showing how many of us there are, and that we would otherwise be unnoticed (because we're not openly carrying, although many people think that you can "open carry" without a license, since they don't know GA law and many other states allow it).
 

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I haven't used any ID in several election cycles since I mail my ballot in. I see the goofy lines and am not sure why more people don't vote by mail and avoid that madness.
 

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I haven't used any ID in several election cycles since I mail my ballot in. I see the goofy lines and am not sure why more people don't vote by mail and avoid that madness.
Smart!
 

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I haven't used any ID in several election cycles since I mail my ballot in. I see the goofy lines and am not sure why more people don't vote by mail and avoid that madness.
Why don't more people do absentee ballots?
Maybe they think you actually have to be absent from your county of residence and unable to vote in person?

But I see that's not true. Maybe it was true in the past, but not now.

Anybody legal voter can do an absentee (mail-in) ballot, without giving any reason or explanation.
 

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Why use a GWL as your I.D. when you could show your DL instead?

Maybe because if every GWL holder did this, the idea of toting a gun would not be so shocking to some people. The general public has no clue how many good, law-abiding citizens carry guns in public already. Why don't they know about this? Because the guns are usually concealed, and the gun-packers don't go around waving their carry permits at every opportunity.
It would be simpler if polling places were not on the list of prohibited places in the first place.
 

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Why don't more people do absentee ballots?
Maybe they think you actually have to be absent from your county of residence and unable to vote in person?

But I see that's not true. Maybe it was true in the past, but not now.

Anybody legal voter can do an absentee (mail-in) ballot, without giving any reason or explanation.
I don't remember when they changed it, but I know for a fact I voted that way in 2012...and I even was carrying a gun when I did it! And probably only wearing underwear! ;)
 

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I use my passport as my id. The poll workers don't like it, I suspect because it doesn't have an address on it.
I've had them ask if they could see my DL after presenting my passport, and I respectfully decline.
 

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Why don't more people do absentee ballots?
Maybe they think you actually have to be absent from your county of residence and unable to vote in person?

But I see that's not true. Maybe it was true in the past, but not now.

Anybody legal voter can do an absentee (mail-in) ballot, without giving any reason or explanation.
I wish absentee voting by mail was only available for good reason (out of country, deployed, stationed somewhere else, etc.). I also wish early voting was only available from the weekend before the actual election date.

There is so much that can happen before an election (yes, even a week before) that voting a month in advance is ridiculous. Letting anybody and everyone mail in a vote or vote early well in advance of the election date also helps promote voter fraud (dead voters, ineligible voters, voting more than once).
 

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A conservative radio talk show host (and lawyer, and former Deputy Chief of the AG's office) said that early voting is a gimmick the Democrats came up with so lazy, unmotivated people would be more likely to vote.

I always thought that it primarily helps busy working people, with full time jobs, kids, active in sports and hobbies, and homeowners with a list of projects to complete.
 

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A conservative radio talk show host (and lawyer, and former Deputy Chief of the AG's office) said that early voting is a gimmick the Democrats came up with so lazy, unmotivated people would be more likely to vote.

I always thought that it primarily helps busy working people, with full time jobs, kids, active in sports and hobbies, and homeowners with a list of projects to complete.
This. I am not interested in standing in a line for 2 or more hours to vote. And before someone starts to pontificate that 'it's the least you should be willing to do', well, you can save it. I am not interested in hearing *why* I should go to the trouble of standing in line for 2 hours.
 
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