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https://vahi.org/summerfest/faq-summerfest/

Just now sent them this email:

Dear VHCA Officials,

I saw this on your website:

"What Should I Not Bring Into Summerfest?
Alcohol, Weapons, Pets, Bicycles (o.k. to valet or lock-up outside festival), Skates, Skateboards, Scooters, Oversized Backpacks, Picnic Coolers, Folding Chairs, Grills, Illegal Substances or anything else the police at the entrances may deem not in the best interests of Summerfest. All bags are subject to search by the Atlanta Police Department."

Perhaps it was an oversight, but in case you didn't know, state law in Georgia is that weapons enjoy statewide preemption. This means that citizens who are licensed to carry may lawfully carry weapons in all places except where state law specifies they cannot be carried, or where those in control of private property ban weapons.

Last time I checked, the street where Summerfest is to be held is neither specified as off limits to weapons under state law, nor is it private property.

Additionally, I don't believe the Atlanta Police Dept is deficient in understanding Fourth Amendment protections. They know they must have probable cause of a crime in order to detain and search the property of citizens.

Should I expect that you will correct your website to remove the prohibition of weapons? Or are you merely suggesting they should not be brought, even though you know they are legal to be brought? Could you please clarify your position on whether you believe you can actually ban weapons on a public street? Has the city approved of banning weapons during the festival?

Thanks and best regards,

Phillip Evans
 

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It's not illegal for them to lie about what you shouldn't bring. I suspect they will not change a thing on their site.
 

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Is this legal with no RAS or PC at a public festival held on public streets and sidewalks? Maybe another lie?

"All bags are subject to search by the Atlanta Police Department."

They state this:
"Saturday/Sunday Events Are Open to General Public.
Free Admission, Donations Greatly Appreciated"
 

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Bunch of stuck-up snobs will probably just ignore, laugh, and go do whatever they want. Just today I was in that area, I had one person without a placard parked in a handicap spot, and another person parked halfway into a handicap stop. Me (with a legitimate placard) could barely fit in between them, and then almost didn't have room to get a wheelchair out. :mad: We should have cut I-485 through that area from 675 to 400 years ago.
 

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Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)
Perhaps they are saying, "You really shouldn't, but we can't legally stop you"?

That's why I asked them for clarification.
 

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Anyone notice this time I toned down my email? I wasn't joking when I said I would take Malum's council under consideration. :)
 

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Anyone notice this time I toned down my email? I wasn't joking when I said I would take Malum's council under consideration. :)
I did. It would be too strident of me to say I was disappointed. Perhaps, a bit.....curious. No. Still too strident. I noted it without prejudice either way. There, that's an adequate description.
 

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I had to look up "strident" to make sure I really knew what it meant. Thanks for that! :lol:

I did. It would be too strident of me to say I was disappointed. Perhaps, a bit.....curious. No. Still too strident. I noted it without prejudice either way. There, that's an adequate description.
 

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No response from them at all yet. Not holding my breath.
 

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I'm sure I'd get a lot further on these things if I had a face like that little boy. So adorable!
Honest mistake on my part. If you could pan lower you'd see he's OC'ing.
 

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Just got a reply from them on their Facebook page. They've updated their website to "illegal weapons" being prohibited, at my suggestion.

So y'all go and carry with no issues, and have a great time!
 

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Just got a reply from them on their Facebook page. They've updated their website to "illegal weapons" being prohibited, at my suggestion.

So y'all go and carry with no issues, and have a great time!
Holy sâ€"!!! :bowdown:
 

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Just got a reply from them on their Facebook page. They've updated their website to "illegal weapons" being prohibited, at my suggestion.

So y'all go and carry with no issues, and have a great time!
You da man!
 

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LOL! Y'all kill me! :lol:
 
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