Utah--- Just heard of this over on PDO

Discussion in 'GA Laws and Politics' started by Sharky, Sep 19, 2006.

  1. Sharky

    Sharky New Member

    I know it's Utah, but was interesting

    KSL story at:

    UoU Letter on the new policy:

    (no registration required at either site to read articles)

    UoU letter not copyrighted so it follows.
    U's Gun Policy Statement

    Media Contacts

    September 18, 2006 --


    Today, President Michael K. Young e-mailed the following message to University of Utah faculty, staff and students regarding the U's position and policy regarding weapons on campus.

    Dear Faculty, Staff and Students:

    I am writing to update you on the status of our pursuit of a resolution of the legal and political issues surrounding weapons on campus. After a careful review of last week"s Utah Supreme Court decision, and following extensive discussions with members of the university community, our Board of Trustees, and public officials, we have decided on the following course of action.

    Working with the Utah Attorney General’s office, we are requesting a stay in our federal action pending the outcome of discussions with state leaders on a possible legislative accommodation to address our commitment to maintain a safe environment for students, faculty, staff, and patients. The University’s policy prohibiting firearms on campus applies to faculty, staff and students, but not to campus visitors. We have agreed, with the Attorney General’s office, to suspend temporarily enforcement of our policy regarding firearms on campus and modify our practices to comply with state law.

    Given this decision, let me inform you of current provisions in state law that continue to apply to the University related to the possession and use of firearms:

    Utah law prohibits weapons on school property, including college campuses, except for firearms that are in the possession of a concealed weapons permit holder. Other narrow exceptions apply, such as guns carried by law enforcement officials.
    In Utah, a person must be 21 years old to obtain a concealed weapons permit.
    Firearms held pursuant to a concealed weapons permit must remain concealed—unless the individual is using the firearm to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or a third person, or to prevent a forcible felony, according to Utah law. The Department of Public Safety Bureau of Criminal Identification informs concealed weapons permit holders, "If you pull a firearm on someone or even display the weapon, then it must be in self defense or it is not justified.†[Emphasis in original].
    University policy prohibits physical or verbal threats, harassment, intimidation or other disruptive behavior in the workplace and academic environment. [PPM 2-76 ]http://www.admin.utah.edu/ppmanual/2/2-76.htm]
    It is a crime to draw or exhibit a firearm in an angry or threatening manner, or to discharge a firearm within 600 feet of a house, dwelling, or building.
    It is a crime to carry a firearm while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance, even if the person has a valid concealed weapons permit.
    Utah law prohibits concealed weapons in "secure areas," including secure hearing rooms at universities. The University regularly holds hearings in a secure hearing room where campus police provide security and use a metal detector to ensure that no weapons are brought into the hearing.
    It is also important to remember that University police officers are available to respond to any situation in which an individual feels threatened on campus.

    I realize that this issue is of great concern to many members of the campus community and assure you that the administration is committed to pursuing the most effective resolution of this issue to ensure the safety and well‑being of our faculty, staff, students, and patients.

    Michael K. Young
  2. Gunstar1

    Gunstar1 Administrator

    So the whole issue is about trained, 21 and older, permit holders being allowed to conceal carry on campus.

    I would say this is unbelievably stupid, however at Mercer the local PD had to have permission from the campus police to even drive onto the streets that the school was built around, much less actually enter onto the property itself.