Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by viper32cm, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

    http://www.gunthing.com/index.php/forum ... read/2513/

    Follow this link for a discussion and more information about a recently proposed federal regulation that would basically stop the trade in ammunition, explosives, and propellents. This would seriously curtail even retail sales of components and ammo.

    It's a propsed rule in the federal register so it's not on the books yet, and there's a comment process so I please follow the link above to find out more and please provide comments.
  2. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

    I have to read the proposed rules again. I glanced at them the other night and side tracked at around page 30 or so. Having dealt with OSHA and OSHA regs in the past, I'm not going into panic mode until I have read all the proposed changes.

  3. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

    http://www.nssf.org/news/PR_idx.cfm?PRl ... 070207.cfm
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

  5. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    What re they going to do with a match or lighter? I could maybe see a butane torch cooking off some weak primers, but that would hardly cause damage unless the person was really stupid.[/i]
  6. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

    I don't see how OSHA even has authority to regulate.

    I'll give them authority over regulating the manufacturing process, sure, but I don't see how daddy.gov has any authority to tell me I can't have a cigarette lighter in Walmart.
  7. ptsmith24

    ptsmith24 New Member

    Just think about the children....and all of those gun store explosions.
  8. merlock

    merlock Active Member


    From an NRA-ILA ALERT:

    Labor Department Announces It Will Revise
    Overreaching OSHA Explosives Rule

    The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) announced it will significantly revise a recent proposal for new “explosives safety†regulations that caused serious concern among gun owners. OSHA had originally set out to update workplace safety regulations, but the proposed rules included restrictions that very few gun shops, sporting goods stores, shippers, or ammunition dealers could comply with.

    Gun owners had filed a blizzard of negative comments urged by the NRA, and just a week ago, OSHA had already issued one extension for its public comment period at the request of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. After continued publicity through NRA alerts and the outdoor media, and after dozens of Members of Congress expressed concern about its impact, OSHA has wisely decided to go back to the drawing board.

    Working with the NRA, Congressman Denny Rehberg (R-MT) planned to offer a floor amendment to the Labor-HHS appropriations bill this Wednesday when the House considers this legislation. His amendment would have prohibited federal funds from being used to enforce this OSHA regulation.

    Such an amendment is no longer necessary since Kristine A. Iverson, the Labor Department’s Assistant Secretary for Congressional and Intergovernmental Affairs, sent Rep. Rehberg a letter, dated July 16, stating that it “was never the intention of OSHA to block the sale, transportation, or storage of small arms ammunition, and OSHA is taking prompt action to revise†this proposed rule to clarify the purpose of the regulation.

    Also, working with the NRA, Congressman Doug Lamborn (R-CO) gathered signatures from 25 House colleagues for a letter, dated July 11, expressing concerns about this proposed OSHA rule. The letter calling the proposal “an undue burden on a single industry where facts do not support the need outlined by this proposed rule†and “not feasible, making it realistically impossible for companies to comply with its tenets.â€

    The OSHA proposal would have defined “explosives†to include “black powder, … small arms ammunition, small arms ammunition primers, [and] smokeless propellant,†and treated these items the same as the most volatile high explosives.

    Under the proposed rule, a workplace that contained even a handful of small arms cartridges, for any reason, would have been considered a “facility containing explosives†and therefore subject to many impractical restrictions. For example, no one could carry “firearms, ammunition, or similar articles in facilities containing explosives … except as required for work duties.†Obviously, this rule would make it impossible to operate any kind of gun store, firing range, or gunsmith shop.

    The public comment website for the proposed rule is no longer accessible. The Labor Department will publish a notice in the July 17 Federal Register announcing that a new rule proposal will soon be drafted for public comment. Needless to say, the NRA monitors proposed federal regulations to head off this kind of overreach, and will be alert for OSHA’s next draft.

    :woohoo: =D>
  9. Thorsen

    Thorsen New Member

    Yeh, when I read this I thought it would die a pretty quick death. It basically amounted to the death of an entire business model, and by default, extreme limitations on the rights of all americans. I doubt it was even done intentionally. It was probably more along the lines of typical bureacratic incompetence.
  10. Tinkerhell

    Tinkerhell Active Member


    I thought the same thing.