UPS is Anti-2nd Amendment. Boycott it?

Glad to see you here/back/still around. 24 posts in 15 years is hiding in the dark more than anyone I think I have seen around here. Except for a Pilot guy IIRC.

Might stop by more often.

I avoid UPS when possible. But I have shipped disassembled machine parts back to a factory for repairs in the past with them though. That was 7-9 years back though.

Nemo

UPS stores are franchised, and not owned by UPS. Most of the UPS stores have no idea about firearms or accessories. They also tend to have little knowledge of UPS policies about shipping firearms or related items.

I had one locating tell me it was against federal law for UPS to ship loaded ammunition since it was classified as a class ‘A’ explosive. I went to another a few blocks away and they just wanted to know if I had my own ORM-D labels or if I needed a few.

This is not UPS policy which can be found here: How To Ship Firearms | UPS - United States

UPS Stores are locally owned and managed franchises. I would not go back to that one.

Nemo said:

Glad to see you here/back/still around. 24 posts in 15 years is hiding in the dark more than anyone I think I have seen around here. Except for a Pilot guy IIRC.

Might stop by more often.

I avoid UPS when possible. But I have shipped disassembled machine parts back to a factory for repairs in the past with them though. That was 7-9 years back though.

Nemo

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I don't write too much about 2nd Amendment issues there, but you might want to check out my essays at www.americanthinker.com. Just click on Archives and do a scroll down to Patrick Gibbs and Patrick J. Gibbs. This week I should have my 12th contribution in 2 1/2 years.

webcavalry said:

This is not UPS policy which can be found here: How To Ship Firearms | UPS - United States

UPS Stores are locally owned and managed franchises. I would not go back to that one.

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Thanks for the information. Now i know that I can still do business with UPS and only need to boycott the UPS Store located in the shopping center at the corner of Sandy Plains Road and Shallowford Rd. in East Cobb County. (hint, hint.)

Nemo said:

I have shipped disassembled machine parts

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Speaking as a former employee, every person who handles packages knows exactly what is in that box. We also know their addresses, plus the addresses of Adam & Eve, etc.

And we open them.

Sounds like cheap thrills. And fun.

Nemo

AtlPhilip said:

Speaking as a former employee, every person who handles packages knows exactly what is in that box. We also know their addresses, plus the addresses of Adam & Eve, etc.

And we open them.

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Maybe that is an argument for using FedEx. Years ago I had a case where a jeweler at the Atlanta Merchandise Mart shipped via UPS a diamond ring he had worked on back to another jeweler. The box made it to the destination but the ring was missing. Unfortunately he did not have it insured. I was told that happened all the time at the Mart.

Let me guess, he mailed it on one of those white/beige sticky paper wrapped tamper evident boxes?

We can spot those things 50ft away. And I guarantee you the thieves can. I advised all my customers to either stop using them, or to overbox in plain brown cardboard.

And for the love of God, do not use Joe's Raw Diamond Wholesale as your return address.

Nemo said:

Sounds like cheap thrills. And fun.

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I could tell you some stories. One involves Adam& Eve, a very old lady, and an enclosed letter complaining about the quality of the products ordered.

AtlPhilip said:

Let me guess, he mailed it on one of those white/beige sticky paper wrapped tamper evident boxes?

We can spot those things 50ft away. And I guarantee you the thieves can. I advised all my customers to either stop using them, or to overbox in plain brown cardboard.

And for the love of God, do not use Joe's Raw Diamond Wholesale as your return address.

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It's been quite a few years but I believe that they used a smaller box, which made it easier to guess that it was something valuable. As I recall the real problem was that anything coming out of the Mart was susceptible to theft as soon as it got into the UPS system and maybe even before it left the Mart. I was told that it was happening to many businesses down there. I agree that using a non-descript name on the return address is a good precaution. Unfortunately I think the return address being at the Mart was also a give-away to would be thieves. The box was slit open at its bottom, the contents removed and then shipped through after being closed up. The recipient got an empty box.

AtlPhilip said:

Let me guess, he mailed it on one of those white/beige sticky paper wrapped tamper evident boxes?

We can spot those things 50ft away. And I guarantee you the thieves can. I advised all my customers to either stop using them, or to overbox in plain brown cardboard.

And for the love of God, do not use Joe's Raw Diamond Wholesale as your return address.

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I don’t know if they still do, but Kel-Tec used to use K-TCNCI. It’s short for their parent company, Kel-Tec CNC Incorporated.

PGibbs said:

It's been quite a few years but I believe that they used a smaller box, which made it easier to guess that it was something valuable.

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Loose diamond dealers used a very distinctive box. The base was in the center of a piece of paper with microprint and and glue backing. They would wet the glue, apply the lid, and wrap the paper around the box. The end result was not unlike a commercial puzzle box in that you had to slit all 4 bottom edges to open the box.

We could spot those things 25 yards away.

Adam5 said:

I don’t know if they still do, but Kel-Tec used to use K-TCNCI. It’s short for their parent company, Kel-Tec CNC Incorporated.

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The address is usually a dead give away too. Three guesses who 1 Apple Court belonged to.