[USMC - Retired]

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=6691322

June 21, 2007

Atlanta (AP) -- U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said today the deadly rampage at Virginia Tech in April highlights the need for states to provide better information on their mentally ill residents to a national crime database used to screen gun buyers.

Gonzales was speaking to the National Association of Attorneys General in Atlanta. He says only 23 states give the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System data on those with mental illness that would disqualify them from buying a gun. He says for the so-called NICS system to be effective, the FBI needs more information from the states. He says the information has to be timely, accurate and complete.

The House of Representatives approved a measure last week that would require states to automate their lists of convicted criminals and mentally ill people, who are prohibited under a 1968 law from buying firearms. They would then have to hand those lists over to the FBI.

Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 students and faculty at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg before taking his own life. He had been ordered to undergo outpatient mental health treatment and should have been barred from buying the two firearms he used in shooting.

But the state of Virginia never forwarded the information to the national background check system.

Gonzales did not take questions after the speech.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Does ordering one to undergo outpatient treatment disqualify them from purchasing or possessing?

I am not trying to trap anybody here. I really do not know the answer.

 

[ber950]

Does ordering one to undergo outpatient treatment disqualify them from purchasing or possessing?

I am not trying to trap anybody here. I really do not know the answer.

My opinion is that is the effect of the law. Remember that the Veterans Admin reported a large number of soldiers after the first Gulf War just because they requested treatment. That is why the NRA compromise bill just voted on provides funds for appeals.

I never liked this provision because I considered it a very slippery slope. Its just too easy to imagine a situation where simple, temporary, and even expected emotional problems could jam you up.

 

[maddog]

Given enough rope they will hang everyone ..... next could be denied due to having to attend marrage counceling

 

[Rammstein]

Gonzales should have been stopped at the state line and turned back.

 

[gsusnake]

What about someone who voluntarily goes in to a therapist for help (and that therapist happens to work for the state, at the university) after his whore of an ex-girlfriend cheats on him for the umpteenth time?

I just needed to talk to someone...

 

[maddog]

Gonzales should have been stopped at the state line and turned back.

I take it you are referring to the mexican border, vice the georgia state line .... lol

 

[Gunstar1]

Does ordering one to undergo outpatient treatment disqualify them from purchasing or possessing?

I am not trying to trap anybody here. I really do not know the answer.

Treatment for what?

If the judge is ordering you to attend anger management classes as a condition of probation, then no.

If during the ordering, the judge had to find that you are a danger to yourself or others, then yes.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Could somebody please straighten this out for us? GS1?

I hate trading rumors.

Does title 18 of the United States Code or some regulation say "if a judge finds you are a danger to yourself or others?"

 

[Gunstar1]

Could somebody please straighten this out for us? GS1?

I hate trading rumors.

Does title 18 of the United States Code or some regulation say "if a judge finds you are a danger to yourself or others?"

I just posted what the bill says about being adjudicated defective in another topic http://www.georgiapacking.org/forum/vie ... 9509#49509

 

[Gunstar1]

United States Attorney General comes to Georgia

Lookin for a soul to steal,
He was in a bind
cus he was way behind
And willing to make a deal

 

[ptsmith24]

United States Attorney General comes to Georgia

Lookin for a soul to steal,
He was in a bind
cus he was way behind
And willing to make a deal

:lol:

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

:rotfl:

 

[Gunstar1]

Keep hearing that song everytime I see the topic title.

Then a band of demons joined in
and it sounded something like this...
:-({|=

 

[luke0927]

What about someone who voluntarily goes in to a therapist for help (and that therapist happens to work for the state, at the university) after his whore of an ex-girlfriend cheats on him for the umpteenth time?

I just needed to talk to someone...

Talk to her best friend while thorowing the inverted anal dip on her.... 8)