Featured Trump Moves to Ban Bump Stocks

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    So the ATF is going to open up the public comments again? Which they just did in January.
     
  2. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  3. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
    It really doesn't mean anything anymore does it? there are no lines in the sand are there? We will incrementally lose our rights and then our children and grandchildren will be total subjects to a socialistic regime down the road. We have failed the coming generations totally I am afraid.
     
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  4. Mrs_Esterhouse

    Mrs_Esterhouse Swollen Member

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    You are not wrong.
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    "But now I direct you to do the opposite," says the Executive.
     
  6. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Be what you would seem to be – or, if you’d like it put more simply – never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.
     
  7. Mrs_Esterhouse

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    GPDO is hitting levels of autism previously thought not possible.
     
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  8. Malum Prohibitum

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    :lol: It's Alice in Wonderland.
     
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  9. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    Luckily I still have my original submitted comment. Which may require some tweaking depending on what they propose.
     
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  10. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    What's this "we" crap? If you want to role over and play dead that's your "right" but don't drag anybody else down with you. Particularly if they don't agree with you.

     
  11. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree. Maybe. Just don't make any furtive movements.
     
  12. gunsmoker

    gunsmoker Lawyer and Gun Activist

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    You know what's freaking crazy? That Trump will ask his Executive Branch agencies to (arguably*) violate the letter of federal law (regarding the definition of a machinegun and how that relates to trigger function) just to follow "the spirit of the law" (rate of fire due to mechanical devices)... WHEN TRUMP KNOWS THAT CONGRESS CAN AND WOULD BAN bump fire stocks the "right way" by amending the federal law and replacing the wording that the NRA suggested some 83 years ago with some new wording that takes into consideration bump-fire or slide-fire stocks (and maybe binary triggers, HellFire or Triburst triggers, Gatling-gun type trigger cranks, etc.).

    Even though the GOP dominates Congress, a bump fire stock ban would not be opposed by the NRA, and even if the NRA opposed it, any Republican Senator or House member could break from the NRA on this issue with basically no political repercussions. Congress could fast -track a bump stock bill.

    I hate the idea of a President ruling like a dictator, or taking executive action in a way that invades the role of Congress in making the laws (Executive branch agencies are only supposed to carry out the terms).


    * I say "... arguably violate federal law" because while Congress defined the term "machinegun" in the statute itself, it did not define or otherwise address what a "trigger" was, or a "single function" of that trigger would be. Clearly, if you hook up an electric motor with a pushrod to your gun's trigger and install a momentary-contact switch for that motor on your gun's fore-end, so that when you push the button a battery-powered motor shoves a pushrod against your gun's trigger at 800 strokes per minute... you've made a machinegun. And that switch you installed is the new trigger, and pushing it in is a single function.
     
  13. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    As in generally speaking about this generation. In a discussion like this, I thought it was understood that "we" meant a larger particular group the members of which may or may not have varying degrees of direct and indirect involvement in the topic being discussed.
    I, unlike you apparently are not perfect. I accept ownership of my shortcomings in attentiveness, active involvement and participation based on selfishness.
    As far as rolling over who mentioned that and who do you believe disagreed with me on what topic that inspired me to make that post?
    Some phrase including the words "panties...wad....don't" comes to mind.
     
  14. Mrs_Esterhouse

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    MAC addresses the NRA's treachery.

     
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  15. Bkite

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  16. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    I'm the farthest from perfect one could imagine. But I am saved.

    As for "we," nobody should assume anything in today's political climate. I certainly try not to.

    And I don't wear panties.
     
  17. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    But the shooting was mutual. Perhaps that's what we're waiting for. :shoot:

     
  18. Malum Prohibitum

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    1775, not 1776. New Englanders were shooting for a year before Congress finally gained the temerity to declare independence and stop with supplicating peace overtures.
     
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  19. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    Actually the prelude started 10 years before that. 1765 there were already boycotts and other actions by the "Sons of Liberty" that led up to the 1773 Boston tea party that was followed rapidly by closing Boston Harbor. Negotiations had failed year after year for 10 years before the Continental Congress yielded to the futility of a peaceful solution. Even then it took a while longer before all thirteen colonies joined the fight. Like today most people did not want to see the war among their own homes. Their families would not hear about the battles but would actually witness them on their lawns. When it finally came down to "there's no stopping it now" more and more joined the fight.
     
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  20. Bkite

    Bkite PawPaw x 3

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    Well then lets just say the "we" pronoun applies to all those who agree that we have not done our absolute best to secure a free future for our children and grandchildren. That would exclude you and include those who self identify.