While I was shopping for a small, slim summer carry pistol recently, I looked at the specifications for a lot of guns. I rarely found any information about the distance of the reach required to put your finger on the trigger when it was in the fully-forward position (and for DA/ SA autos, this means the gun would be "uncocked" and you would be reaching for the longer double-action trigger pull). I handled a dozen in gun shops and sporting goods stores, and pawn shops. I rented a total of six (6) promising candidates from two different indoor shooting ranges (Bullseye Marksman in Cumming, and Johns Creek Indoor Range in, well, John's Creek). I found that the "trigger reach" distance was a MAJOR FACTOR in what guns I liked. That measurement made me reject some guns that were otherwise good by every other standard I was using to evaluate them. Why don't more gun manufacturers, or gun writers who review and evaluate new models of guns for popular gun magazines and blogs, take a measurement of this distance from the back of a gun's grip frame to the center of a weapon's trigger and get the "trigger reach" measurement, so people can narrow or expand their list of guns to check out in person when they're gun shopping? A gun's overall length is always given. So is its thickness, although some manufacturers may fudge those numbers a bit by not counting levers and buttons that protrude beyond the normal frame or slide surfaces. Just about every gun made in the last 30 years has its height, from magazine base plate to the top of its rear sight, measured and posted online somewhere. I'd like to see the trigger reach measurement similarly publicized. Back in 2013, somebody on the "USA Carry" website posted about the issue of trigger reach, and provided a link to a database of many guns that had such a measurement done. https://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/38221-ultimate-trigger-reach-chart.html That link (at "levelsights.com" appears to be dead and no longer valid. http://www.levelsights.com/Trigger-reach.asp I PROPOSE THAT WE, at GEORGIAPACKING.ORG, create a database of "trigger reach" measurements using any guns we can put our hands on-- guns we own, guns our friends and family own, and guns we fondle at gun shops or gun shows where we're allowed to take a measurement. BUT, HOW TO MEASURE IT? If what we want is an actual measurement of the length of an imaginary straight line going back from the center of a gun's trigger to that point on the rear of the grip frame or handle opposite that point on the trigger, and forming a line that is parallel to the line where the slide and frame meet (or parallel to the gun's bore, if you prefer), I don't know of any easy way for one person to make that measurement, considering that a gun's grip frame is typically not flat, and may be quite thick due to the frame size and the attached grip panels / stocks (if any). Taking a straight line measurement would seem to require either 2 people working together to place a pair of long slender sticks or rods perpendicular to the flat surface on which the gun is resting, with one rod touching the trigger and one rod touching the back of the grip or frame. Then while one person holds those sticks in proper alignment with each other and to the table top, the other person gets a measurement between those sticks with a ruler or calipers or whatever. PERHAPS a better measurement would be one that traces the actual contour of the gun, on one side only, by stretching a string from the center of the gun's trigger to the correct point on the back of the gun's grip. Near one end of the string, but not literally "at" the very end, could be a black dot made with a permanent marker. Place that dot over the center of the trigger and hold it in place with your finger. Then stretch the string around to the back of the gun's grip and, over the correct spot, pinch the string with your thumbnail to make an indentation in it. Remove the string, mark that dent with a touch of a permanent market, and then use a ruler or tape measure or calipers to get the measurement, center-to-center between the marked spots. I think the above technique could be performed easily by one person with no special tools or equipment. What do you fellow GPDO members think? Could you do it with your guns? Would you be interested in knowing the numbers for this "trigger reach w/ contour" measurement on other folks' guns and new models of firearms on the shelves at gun stores?