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ok, i am flying to jamaica for a week and i just began to wonder what the rules are for international travel with guns? i have flown with guns before but always inside the USA and i seem to understand that some. but i wonder what policy is on international flights and guns,

how would you find these regulations?

how would you find out the laws for guns in a foriegn country?
 

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jeepsterwannabe said:
how would you find out the laws for guns in a foriegn country?
Call up their embassy here in the US. They should be able to tell you or get you their gun laws.
 

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Jamaica has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world so you will not be able to bring any guns with you. They have a complete ban on all private ownership of firearms and ammunition. Of course, they also have extremely high murder and crime rates a lot of which involves guns.
 

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Incredibly potent marijuana = Yes
Self Defense = No
That seems to be a trend.

Canada: pot? good
Guns? bad

Holland: pot? good
Guns? bad

America: pot? bad
Guns? good
 

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Rammstein said:
foshizzle said:
Incredibly potent marijuana = Yes
Self Defense = No
That seems to be a trend.

Canada: pot? good
Guns? bad

Holland: pot? good
Guns? bad

America: pot? bad
Guns? good
Is there any country that considers both guns and pot good? That would be a "good thing" as Martha says... :righton:
 

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Jamaican War Zone

“Enveloped in lush foliage, skirted by exquisite beaches, and caressed by the sea, Jamaica is an island of intoxicative beauty. But splendid scenery isn't the island's only asset â€" Jamaica is alive with music, art, and culture as well.â€

While you'd never know it from the travel brochure, the Jamaica described above is only a mirage. Don't expect to find out about the real Jamaica from the Jamaican Embassy, either â€" they'll deny they even have the crime figures available.
Dave Kopel, excellent, as always.
 

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jeepsterwannabe said:
ok, i am flying to jamaica for a week and i just began to wonder what the rules are for international travel with guns?
Just say no.

But Jamaica played that card out when it replaced an already-restrictive gun licensing system with the Firearms Act and the Gun Court Act of 1974. The Acts provided for gun confiscation, house-to-house searches, incommunicado detention, secret trials, warrantless searches and seizures, and mandatory lifetime prison sentences for the possession of even a single bullet. The main designer of the Gun Court Act was the president of the World Federation for Mental Health, Dr. Michael Beaubrun. He insisted that the Gun Court was a scientifically designed approach to behavioral change.

One American tourist, who borrowed an uncle's suitcase, which happened to contain a single .22-caliber round, was saved from life in prison only by the strong intervention of the American Embassy.
 

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One of my engineers was working in Jamaica. Here is his story.

I was on my way to the plant for the review and on the way the guide told me we would stop at the hotel, check in and then head to the plant.

He gave me exact directions, never leave the resort hotel at all! NEVER. on the way to the plant we noticed a large group of people circling a small store. Wierd part was everybody had a machetee (Spelling?) in their hand. A few more feet past the store lay parts of 2 or 3 men. Supposeldy they stole from the owner and the other store owners and citizens decided what to do with the bad guys.

Cops, the few that were available and actually showed up, did nto get involved for fear of being killed themselves for interfearing.

This is an actual story as my engineer is credible.....so i think!
 

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A couple of my friends just got married in Jamaica in early May, and I spent most of a week there. That place is a hell hole. Like Sharky said, DO NOT GO OFF THE RESORT! Jamaica is a third world country and you are viewed as easy money. You are viewed as easy money by thugs and police alike, so just try to stay out of any and all trouble. Marijuana is not legal there, but the only people that get busted are tourists b/c tourists are the only ones with money. I don't think Jamaican jail would be a pleasant experience, so just try to be good.

If you are travelling with women, then do NOT let them out of sight at any time. Rape is basically acceptable there as long as a tourist isn't the one committing the crime (that's basically how all crime works there). It sure seemed like the majority of Jamaican men will solicit your wife for all kinds of things as you are walking down the beach holding hands, so if you think there'd be much pause for them if you weren't there, then you're kidding yourself. I saw this first hand, and it's no BS. It's one of those things where you figure out very quickly that things can go south in a heartbeat, and you are severely outnumbered and therefore helpless. Very few people in the wedding party ventured off the resort after the first day.

I brought a 4 D-cell Maglite with me and carried it whenever it was dark, even on the resort. I got made fun of for having it the first day, but the comments suddenly stopped by the second day. You can't have a gun or even mace/pepper spray so you'll have to carry some kind of blunt weapon that isn't a weapon. Since the island is filled with tourists with no weapons and lots of money, being seen with a big metal club makes you not worth the effort.
 

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I went for my "short" honeymoon there. We never left the resort and where we stayed was just row after row of resorts but I agree with the above statements. I'd not leave and go wandering for anything. If you knew your way around it might be ok, but being obvious tourists and having such a high chance of wandering into the wrong kind of area - high chance because there seem to be such a large % of bad areas - and being defensless just adds up to being a walking bullseye.

The long one was to the Dom Republic and was prior to the wedding :wink:
If you think Jamaica is bad try going further south. DR was actually very scary and seriously 3rd world in feel. We left the resort one time to walk through the tourist trap shops right outside the resort walls (the place we stayed was bounded by 15' walls!). After we saw two of the local constabulary snag some guy & shove him around & then drag him off with no discussion or debate or explaintion we didn't come out from behind those walls again. On the back to the airport we got to watch a guy in full military garb & sporting a shotgun literally yank another person out of a their vehicle & throw them to the ground and point the boomstick at their head. No clue what was going on but it looked like a random stop. As much as I enjoyed the beach I was very happy to go home....

The sad thing is there are precious few places that we can take our weapons to when we travel if it's outside the USA. :(
 
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