Tragic but interesting.

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by tj2000, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. tj2000

    tj2000 New Member

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    I would like to find out you opinion about this article and who was at fault. What is your assesment of the root cause of this situation.

    Published July 17, 2007 10:48 pm - A 3-year-old boy died Tuesday from wounds sustained following what appears to be an accidental shooting at a Valdosta residence, according to Cmdr. Brian Childress with the Valdosta Police Department.

    3-year-old dies
    Toddler discovers pistol, shoots self in neck

    Kelli Hernandez
    The Valdosta Daily Times

    VALDOSTA —
    A 3-year-old boy died Tuesday from wounds sustained following what appears to be an accidental shooting at a Valdosta residence, according to Cmdr. Brian Childress with the Valdosta Police Department.


    The child, Steven Bustillos-Ramirez, accompanied his mother Eva Castillo, who runs a private cleaning service, to the 2117 Northwood Circle residence that morning, according to Childress

    Authorities responded to the residence at approximately 9:55 a.m. and found the child dead in one of the bedrooms of the home. Initial reports and results of gunshot residue testing indicate that the child gained control of a loaded Taurus .45-caliber pistol, which was left on a night stand, and shot himself in the neck, according to Childress.

    Castillo regularly took two other children, ages 7 and 10, to work with her, but had not taken the 3-year-old before Tuesday, according to Childress.

    At the time of the incident only one of three college-age residents was home, but was asleep in a separate bedroom.

    According to the Lowndes County Board of Assessors, the home is owned by Giuseppe Pistelli and his father, Massimo Pistelli.

    Giuseppe Pistelli is reported to be the owner of the gun and stated that he used the gun to protect himself and his business. Additional weapons were found in the home, but were not loaded, according to Childress.

    “We are not going to rule out filing criminal charges, but at this point that would be premature,†Childress said. “We hope that some small amount of good could come from Steven’s death if the public can become better educated on gun safety.â€

    The police department has been providing gun safety locks free to the public for a number of years as part of Project ChildSafe, a program developed by the National Shooting Sports Foundation supported by a U.S. Department of Justice grant. The department will also conduct free courses on gun safety.

    “We believe this tragedy could have been avoided with a device like this,†Childress said, referring to the gun safety lock.

    To obtain a gun safety lock, visit the Valdosta Police Department at 500 N. Toombs St. or to request a gun safety course contact Officer Vernotis Williams at 229-293-3099.


    Gun safety tips:

    • Do not keep loaded weapons in the home.

    • Keep weapons in areas that are not accessible to children.
    Secure all weapons with safety locks.

    • Talk to children to educate them about guns and gun safety.
    This came from packing.org today.

    :-k
     
  2. gsusnake

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    "Hold on a moment, please, Mr. Home Invader. I need to load this pistol so I can shoot you when you come in. Would you mind waiting for a minute?"
     

  3. Wiley

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    To Eva Castillo: Keep your damn kids out of my house! You were hired to clean. Providing a playground was not part of the deal. And no, I'm not sorry your kid is dead.

    To Childress: Any charges should be levied against Castillo. And if you don't I will to be followed quickly by a civil suit.
     
  4. Claire

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    they went into a strangers house the kids shouldn't have been touching anything

    sorry to say the mother should have sat the child down next to her & where the kid was always in her sight.

    watch your kids at all times (especially at this age) & teach them not to touch things that is not their's.

    when I was younger - I was told my fingers would be taken off if I touched someone else's stuff when we went to visit people

    or if we were in a store & I left my mothers side - she said she'd leave me there or send me to military school.

    Parents today need to instill discipline on their children & know what tough love means

    Parents who just let their kids run free thru stores is one of my biggest pet peeves - the kid gets too close to me I'm tempted to stick my foot out & trip the little bugger :p

    I don't think the homeowner is at fault here

    Sad story
     
  5. Cavediver

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    IMO, mom should have been keeping better tabs on her child.

    Dude should not leave loaded guns on a table out in the open, but that's another matter.
     
  6. merlock

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    I agree with Wiley.
     
  7. pro2am

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    Mom and homeowner in my opinion.

    Mom should have never brought her kids to work with her. There are a ton of options...yes...even for a working mom.

    Homeowner should know better than to leave a gun sitting out when a stranger is coming into the house...that's like leaving your wallet full of cash on the kitchen counter.

    Common sense isn't so common anymore.
     
  8. merlock

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    +1,000,000

    :shock: OMG...How many years of therapy did you need to fix this obvious assault on your self-esteem? :p

    Or, had my rear end wore out in the store, AND when I got home. :oops:

    This is the root of the problem. The indoctination centers (read: Public Schools) teach kids to either threaten or actually call 911 if the little monster gets mad at it's parents. Add the new-age, Dr. Spock :bsflag: (kids are little adults) and there you have it. My kids (now grandkids) know that doesn't fly with me. I've also made rather loud comments directed at parents who let their brats run wild. :evil:
    Nor do I.
     
  9. pro2am

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    My former father-in-law's favorite saying, "I'll tear your arm off and beat you with the bloody stump"

    :lol: I always laughed at that one :lol:
     
  10. packin_peaches

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    I agree!

    It wasn't uncommon for her to bring children with her? Why would you bring children with you when you are cleaning someone's house? You don't know what could be in there, and with a child that age, she should have known better. [-X

    The homeowner should have had his gun put up. Period. He may not feel that way, but you can bet your last dollar that mine would either be on my person, or put up. And yes...it is unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be any common sense anymore. #-o
     
  11. USMC - Retired

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    If the kid had gone in the guys bathroom and drank a bottle of drano would we have even heard about it? How about if he stuck a screwdrive in a power outlet? Pulled a TV off a counter onto himself? Only place to put the blame here is with the mom. She obviously can't do her job and watch her kid at the same time so she had no business bringing him with her.
     
  12. ptsmith24

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    +1
     
  13. Thorsen

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    Anytime I have anyone over to the house, adult only or adult w/ child, I always ensure that my firearms are secured. If I get a surprise visitor, after letting them in the home I excuse myself to secure my firearms.

    Doing otherwise is simply unsafe and shows a lack of good judgement.
     
  14. tace

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    Or got a hold of porn laying around, etc, etc.

    The point is that the parents should be responsible for their kids.

    In some countries, the parents are legally responsible for their kids crimes.
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

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    3 college roommates using a house cleaning service?
     
  16. HannitizedRushBaby

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    I can't imagine leaving a loading gun out in plain view when someone was coming to clean. BUT... that is NOT the issue. There is no way this homeowner should be charged with anything. Also, he shouldn't have to have a gun safety lock.
     
  17. M249

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    I concur.

    I don't believe any charges should be filed. The homeowner should not be held liable for an unsupervised child, and he is going to have to deal with the knowledge that a child killed himself with his firearm. The parents are going to have to deal with the grief of losing their child for the rest of their lives.

    I can't speak for anyone else, but knowing something I did led to the death of a child would hurt me far more than any jail or monetary penalty.
     
  18. Claire

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    catholic school with tough nuns was more traumatic from the time I was 4 yrs old till I was 12
     
  19. Wiley

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    Isn't that redundant?
     
  20. merlock

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    :lol: