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http://military.discovery.com/convergen ... eshow.html

I saw this on tv last night and seemed pretty informative to a newbie like me.

10. M14
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Rifle
Caliber: 7.62 x 51 mm (.30 inch)
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 2,799 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 700â€"750 rounds per minute

9. STURMGEWEHR 44
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Assault Rifle
Country of Origin: Germany
Caliber: 7.92 x 33 mm (.30 inch0,br> Cartridge Capacity: 30 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 2,133 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 500 rounds per minute

8. 1903 SPRINGFIELD
Type: Bolt-Action Rifle
Country of Origin: United States
Caliber: 7.62 x 63 mm (.30-06 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 5 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 2,700 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 10 rounds per minute

7. STEYR AUG
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Bull-Pup Assault Rifle
Country of Origin: Austria
Caliber: 5.56 x 45 mm (.22 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 30 and 42 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 3,084 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 650 rounds per minute

6. MAUSER K98k CARBINE
Type: Bolt-Action Rifle
Country of Origin: Germany
Caliber: 7.92 x 57 mm (.30 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 5 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: approximately 2,822 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 10-15 rounds per minute

5. FN FAL
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Rifle
Country of Origin: Belgium
Caliber: 7.62 x 51 mm (.30 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 20 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 2,700 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 650-700 rounds per minute

4. M1 GARAND
Type: Semiautomatic
Rifle Country of Origin: United States
Caliber: 7.62 x 63 mm (.30-06 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 8 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 2,838 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 30 rounds per minute

3. LEE-ENFIELD SMLE
Type: Bolt-Action Rifle
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Caliber: 7.7 x 56 mm (.30 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 10 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: approximately 2,438 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 15-20 rounds per minute

2. M16
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Assault Rifle
Country of Origin: United States
Caliber: 5.56 x 45 mm (.223 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 20-30 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: Approximately 3,281 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 700-950 rounds per minute

1. AK-47
Type: Semi or Fully Automatic Assault Rifle
Country of Origin: Soviet Union
Caliber: 7.62 x 39 mm (.30 inch)
Cartridge Capacity: 30 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 2,329 feet per second
Rate of Fire: 600 rounds per minute
 

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I have owned most mentioned here and would put the FN FAL in first followed by the M1 GARAND (thats a close call for first!) . M14 third and the rest follow suit.........AK, AR ect. What ever...........
 

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I'm sure that the list is based on numbers fielded. Otherwise I would put the M-14 as number one. I havent owned all on the list but have shot all but the STURMGEWEHR 44 and if your were to base the list on performance I would say that it is way off... this of course is only my personal opinion.
 

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After watching the show and the comments made, I would have voted differently just based on the shows information. And I dont kow jack about rifles.....yet!

I really want the M1! Got to find a good one somewhere.

Any ideas where I can find one guys?
 

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So I am noticing Springfield Armory, US Arms, and Winchester that have issued the M1's.

Sorry to sound stupid. Most I have seen are the .30-06 models which I was believing to be the one the government issued to troops in WWII.

What is the difference, if there is one, from the different manufacturers and the M1. I am a bit confused. I also saw them in .308
 

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There is some good reading here
 

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the M1 Garand is 30-06, fed by 8 round clips that are top-loaded. The last shot chunks the metal clip out of the rifle. Semi-auto.

The M1A is the civilian-ized version of the M14.... 308 caliber and fed by a detachable box magazine fed through the bottom of the rifle.

The M1 Carbine is also a box mag fed little shorty-sporty that is chamberes in .30 Carbine. Uber light, zero and i mean zero recoil, easy to weild and great plinker. Semi-auto although select fire versions were made (M2 and M3 carbine)


There is not much difference between any Garands other than collector value. You just need good parts really. they are so easy to take-down. You can find good CMP shooters hopefully for $450-750 depending on wood condition and finish. most important thing is for throat and muzzle erosion levels. they are heavy as hell but fun to shoot.

Sharky head to the gun shows you can find Garand collectors selling great ones... beware they can run anywhere from $500 to $2500 ! and they are addictive! one is not enough.
 

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You shoulda said something at the shoot. I'd of let you shoot the sweetest Garand you'll ever see.
 

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You shoulda said something at the shoot. I'd of let you shoot the sweetest Garand you'll ever see.
I was going to ask if I could give it a try, but with all th erounds that I ran through my Mauser, Mosin and AR I didn't think my shoulder could take much more.
 
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