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So what do y'all think about corona being already planted in the masks? If this truly was an attempted bioweapon, it means nothing without a delivery system. Sure, the classic delivery system is a device, or gas bottle, or artillery shell. But when you have an illegal group like the communists whose primary MO is to operate through clandestine and subversive means, them trying to perfect such a delivery system is quite reasonable to expect. There was an episode of CSI a long time back that did something with that MO. I don't remember much of the episode, but I remember that at a funeral, this crazy bomber set off a smaller bomb to scare the crowd in one direction, where a bigger bomb was waiting. This is that scenario, the communists create a virus scare (fake or otherwise) that causes people to scarf up masks, then they contaminate the masks to spread it even more. The real question, and scary thing, is what happens when the next virus isn't a cold? What if they have the capability to do this with ebola? What if this really was just a test of the delivery system?
 

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Whoa, wait, what?!

Is this a hypothetical or is this actually happening? Any links to the story?

So what do y'all think about corona being already planted in the masks? If this truly was an attempted bioweapon, it means nothing without a delivery system. Sure, the classic delivery system is a device, or gas bottle, or artillery shell. But when you have an illegal group like the communists whose primary MO is to operate through clandestine and subversive means, them trying to perfect such a delivery system is quite reasonable to expect. There was an episode of CSI a long time back that did something with that MO. I don't remember much of the episode, but I remember that at a funeral, this crazy bomber set off a smaller bomb to scare the crowd in one direction, where a bigger bomb was waiting. This is that scenario, the communists create a virus scare (fake or otherwise) that causes people to scarf up masks, then they contaminate the masks to spread it even more. The real question, and scary thing, is what happens when the next virus isn't a cold? What if they have the capability to do this with ebola? What if this really was just a test of the delivery system?
 

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No, I'm just suggesting that, particularly since places that are extremely strict about face diapers are the places supposedly having the roughest time.
 

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I am a DoD civil service employee and they sent us an email yesterday asking who would want to volunteer for receiving the vaccine. they are prioritizing by job criticality and health risk conditions.

I put my name in the bucket. don't know if I will be selected though.
Got a call yesterday from the medical group. Asked if i still wanted to get the vaccine. I got it this morning. Everything went fine. I was actually surprised they called.
 

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You got the first one. Hopefully, the new President does not mess up by prematurely distributing the stockpiles available for your second shot.

Was it Moderna or Pfizer?
 

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So what do y'all think about corona being already planted in the masks? If this truly was an attempted bioweapon, it means nothing without a delivery system. Sure, the classic delivery system is a device, or gas bottle, or artillery shell. But when you have an illegal group like the communists whose primary MO is to operate through clandestine and subversive means, them trying to perfect such a delivery system is quite reasonable to expect. There was an episode of CSI a long time back that did something with that MO. I don't remember much of the episode, but I remember that at a funeral, this crazy bomber set off a smaller bomb to scare the crowd in one direction, where a bigger bomb was waiting. This is that scenario, the communists create a virus scare (fake or otherwise) that causes people to scarf up masks, then they contaminate the masks to spread it even more. The real question, and scary thing, is what happens when the next virus isn't a cold? What if they have the capability to do this with ebola? What if this really was just a test of the delivery system?
Virus viability drops significantly with time, heat, and dehydration. Maybe don't put on a damp mask you bought out of a freezer on the back of some guy's pickup truck.

If they're reusable fabric masks, wash first. If they're disposable only get them if they're in a sealed pack and hit them with UV if paranoid?
 

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Why is it the "better" one ?
Oh, lots of reasons. Even the Pfizer CEO admitted this in an interview I was listening to (yeah, that stood out to me). Effectiveness is the main reason. Moderna had 0 serious illnesses in its vaccine group during trials. So far as I know, it is the only one in the world with 0 serious illnesses during trials.

Moderna has some advantages in that it is a company that exists only to develop mRNA technology, so it had a huge head start on everybody else, and this is literally its only product in the marketplace.
 

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Oh, lots of reasons. Even the Pfizer CEO admitted this in an interview I was listening to (yeah, that stood out to me). Effectiveness is the main reason. Moderna had 0 serious illnesses in its vaccine group during trials. So far as I know, it is the only one in the world with 0 serious illnesses during trials.

Moderna has some advantages in that it is a company that exists only to develop mRNA technology, so it had a huge head start on everybody else, and this is literally its only product in the marketplace.
Thanks for the information. I had not seen where the Pfizer CEO admitted it.
 

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I don't know if I could find it again, but basically he said that those really at risk (comorbidity, age) should get the Moderna vaccine due to its higher protection against serious disease and that his was more appropriate for those younger and at lesser risk.

So either he was admitting Moderna was better or he saw it as a marketing strategy to reach out to the "young and hip." :D

New Slogan! :
"Pfizer: It's what all the cool kids are getting."
 

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Virus viability drops significantly with time, heat, and dehydration. Maybe don't put on a damp mask you bought out of a freezer on the back of some guy's pickup truck.

If they're reusable fabric masks, wash first. If they're disposable only get them if they're in a sealed pack and hit them with UV if paranoid?
I'm talking more about the boxed "surgical" masks that a lot of people still use, and stores and governments hand out. Yes, virus viability drops when just put on a surface, but can they be protected? Surrounded by a water soluble material of some kind? The NCIS tv show showed something like this early on. While I think the evil lady would have needed more than a moisture strip and lead-based ink to get the bacteria through the postal system, if a bunch of silly tv writers can dream it up, so can a well-funded communist terrorist organization, but they could actually make a delivery system work. That's been one of the problems with bio weapons, delivery systems [till now?] have never been very viable. They're either too risky to the deliverer, or too easily detected. If the communist thugs have truly surmounted those issues, then we're screwed. We could have solved this in 1949, but Harry Truman's spine was about as rigid as Kemp's is.
 

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I'm talking more about the boxed "surgical" masks that a lot of people still use, and stores and governments hand out. Yes, virus viability drops when just put on a surface, but can they be protected? Surrounded by a water soluble material of some kind? The NCIS tv show showed something like this early on. While I think the evil lady would have needed more than a moisture strip and lead-based ink to get the bacteria through the postal system, if a bunch of silly tv writers can dream it up, so can a well-funded communist terrorist organization, but they could actually make a delivery system work. That's been one of the problems with bio weapons, delivery systems [till now?] have never been very viable. They're either too risky to the deliverer, or too easily detected. If the communist thugs have truly surmounted those issues, then we're screwed. We could have solved this in 1949, but Harry Truman's spine was about as rigid as Kemp's is.
So viruses are in a vague definition between living things and non-living things. They lack self-repair capability so normal things like oxygen and low energy radiation (like light and the heat of ambient room temperature) do irreparable harm to viruses quickly (hours to days). Coronavirus is also an RNA virus, so it's single-stranded. One break and it's done. Now as far as potential to infect with tainted masks? Sure, go swab some ICU patients and wrap the result around your face if you want to be the definition of health.

I think all the air dispersable bio-weapons are bacteria (from the real living things category). That means nature handles far more of the viability problems than have been mentioned here. I mean look at the difference in guidance, 6ft/wear a mask/self-isolate with symptoms vs positive pressure bunny suits/negative pressure labs/triple glove.
 
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