[Nemo]

I have that all covered in the "Who" answer. For those who have a half a lick or more of sense.

Nemo

 

[moe mensale]

This Covid world...it is really theirs isn't it...
WATCH: Bill de Blasio Dances in Times Square While Keeping New Yorkers Out (breitbart.com)

I watched that briefly out of curiosity. What an all-around waste of time and resources. It was just as stupid as the non-Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. They shouldn't have even bothered.

 

[45_Fan]

If the coronavirus is as deadly as the self-annointed elites and "experts" have been making it out to be, there should be a huge number of excess deaths over and above the prior year's numbers in just about every country. I'll posit that there won't be.

Your opinion could be in conflict with facts.

https://usafacts.org/articles/preli...deaths-in-2020-than-2019-coronavirus-age-flu/

According to preliminary weekly data from the Centers for Disease Control and Protection (CDC), 2,926,129 people have died from all causes between January 1 and November 28 of this year. While this data is preliminary and is incomplete for the last eight weeks, it provides for useful context.

According to the same estimates, 2,852,590 people died in 2019, meaning at least 73,000 more people have died so far in 2020 than 2019, despite missing or incomplete data for October through December.

Those are preliminary numbers and there are not expected to be any decreases or "improvements" in the data (because negative deaths isn't a thing) as the final numbers for the year roll in. When 2020 preliminary numbers are already higher than 2019 totals with 10-20% of the 2020 dataset yet to be reported, it certainly has the appearance of a huge amount of excess deaths, irrespective of reported causes.

 

[Phil1979]

"Let them eat cake".

This Covid world...it is really theirs isn't it...
WATCH: Bill de Blasio Dances in Times Square While Keeping New Yorkers Out (breitbart.com)

 

[NTA]

Average deaths per day, previous years, is around 7,500 in the US.

Covid has killed quite a few in 2020, but in more ways than its own blood clots and ventilators. Most in nursing homes had some months left to live before Covid took them.

Suicides and lack of usual medical needs of heart disease, drug overdose, and cancer care no doubt increased, most attributed to Covid for the usual reasons.

Anyway the analysis of the numbers will not allow quite as much manipulation as the current daily count does.

 

[Clark]

Your opinion could be in conflict with facts.

https://usafacts.org/articles/preli...deaths-in-2020-than-2019-coronavirus-age-flu/
Those are preliminary numbers and there are not expected to be any decreases or "improvements" in the data (because negative deaths isn't a thing) as the final numbers for the year roll in. When 2020 preliminary numbers are already higher than 2019 totals with 10-20% of the 2020 dataset yet to be reported, it certainly has the appearance of a huge amount of excess deaths, irrespective of reported causes.

But how many of those are from the lockdowns: drug abuse, child abuse, limited access to medical care, suicide?

 

[45_Fan]

But how many of those are from the lockdowns: drug abuse, child abuse, limited access to medical care, suicide?

That is a circular logic fallacy.

• Primary assertion: COVID is a hoax.
• Justification given: If COVID were real, there would be far more deaths than last year.
• Conflicting factual information: Well, there ARE far more deaths than last year!
• Recycle the primary assertion to whitewash conflicting facts: The extra deaths COULD BE explainable as a function of the hoax!

Bring data that shows homicide, suicide, drug-related deaths, and non-COVID healthcare-related deaths have tripled or quadrupled from 2019 numbers while still acknowledging flu-related deaths are drastically down and you would have my attention.

 

[NTA]

"Bring data" pretty much impossible to get accurate and high resolution data from the gov these days. But it is hard to fake actual total Death Certificates, no matter the cause of death.

 

[Mstr-Chris]

"I just want to be clear in terms of the definition of people dying of COVID. So, the case definition is very simplistic. It means that at the time of death it was a COVID-positive diagnosis. So that means if you were in hospice and had already been given, you know, a few weeks to live and then you were also found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means that if, technically, even if you died of a clear alternate cause but you had COVID at the same time it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone that's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of death. I hope that's helpful."

 

[Bkite]

There are some here who believe Fauci is a insightful nonpolitical guy I'm sure.
Fauci: Return to Normalcy Depends on Vaccine Rollout and 'Rather Strict Adherence' to Restrictions (breitbart.com)

 

[Bkite]

There are some here who believe Fauci is a insightful nonpolitical guy I'm sure.
Fauci: Return to Normalcy Depends on Vaccine Rollout and 'Rather Strict Adherence' to Restrictions (breitbart.com)

He, demented Joe Buden and some others are calling for/suggesting a larger Federal role in ensuring that local entities follow their rules.

 

[Bkite]

It really is for the kid's safety!
Teachers Union Leader Resists Schools Reopening from Island Vacation (breitbart.com)

 

[EJR914]

Maybe China will release a much worse lab-created bioweapon soon and just take all of us out for good:rotfl2: /sarcasm

 

[Bkite]

Interesting developments/stories just keep a coming don't they

Los Angeles Superspreader Task Force Detains at Least 900 at NYE Parties (breitbart.com)

 

[mountainman444]

Interesting developments/stories just keep a coming don't they

Los Angeles Superspreader Task Force Detains at Least 900 at NYE Parties (breitbart.com)

Send in the storm troopers.
I just believe I would be embarrassed to serve on the "LA SUPERSPREADER TASK FORCE".

 

[moe mensale]

Interesting developments/stories just keep a coming don't they

Los Angeles Superspreader Task Force Detains at Least 900 at NYE Parties (breitbart.com)

And yet all the big box stores (Costco, Walmart, Home Depot, etc) and most government entities remained open from Day 1. The only plausible reason for that has to be that the coronavirus is a sentient organism able to pick and choose which venues to wreak havoc upon. It obviously doesn't like happy, friendly, family oriented social gatherings. I'm just amazed that our tin-pot dictators astute politicians were able to understand this while the rest of us unsophisticated rubes were too ignorant to know better. Yeah.

 

[Bkite]

 

[Phil1979]

The virus cops gotta do their thing to oppress "free" citizens.

And do they really think they are accomplishing something useful? If anyone was sick at the party with a contagion, by the time they got there it was already spread.

For crying outloud, just let people and their immune systems function the way they are supposed to. Is this police state tactic going to become the norm for every flu season?

Gov. Newsome needs to get recalled, before or after the tar and feathering.

 

[NTA]

Make yourself smarter about the vax details:
https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/

Well OK, now I'm a lot smarter.

 

[NTA]

And another article about how Biden saves the day and reduces 'cases'
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero)