Things heard in the gunstore

Discussion in 'General GWL Questions' started by viper32cm, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    When I go home (Valdosta) to see the folks I often puruse the only two gun stores in town, often with my dad. Generally speaking it's a waste of time, though one gun store in particular does have some interesting stuff from time to time. The other, well, let's just say they price their used guns for more than I can buy the same thing new.

    At any rate, the cheaper of the stores is the one where all the LEOs shop. While shopping for a pocket pistol early last month I stopped by there. The guy had some S&W 637s and 642s but didn't have what I really wanted a PF-9. Well we got to talking about carry and the owner told me it's illegal to pocket carry in Georgia.

    At this moment I look at the guy rather quizically and inform him that I am rather familiar with the gun laws in Georgia and that pocket carry is in deed legal. "Mexican" carry is not legal.

    Anyhow, last week my dad bought a holster for his P-3AT from the same guy and my dad started talking about Georgia's carry laws again. This time the guy didn't say anything misinformed but I did learn something very disheartening about the Lowndes county LEOs.

    Each one of them has a different approach to the carry laws. This made my legal mind perk up since laws are designed to ensure equal treatment for all so having a "different approache" doesn't really fit into the equation.

    However, this guy also recanted a story to my dad about trying to figure out the car carry laws in the state. Apparently the owner of the store called the GBI or something like that and the answer was "well it's probably ok so long as it's unloaded."

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  2. legacy38

    legacy38 Active Member

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    I know I'll get corrected if I misinterpret this, but pocket carry is cool as long as the weapon is in a pocket holster. I believe that satisfies the legal requirements. The guy could have just been confused from being told that simply carrying a pistol loose in the pocket was illegal.

    I never had any negative encounters with the popo when I lived down there.
     

  3. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    You're right but he was trying to make it out like you couldn't carry in your pocket holster or not. And then when I tried to correct him he backed off by saying something like "well if you're going to do that you might as well get an IWB holster."

    I haven't had a problem at all with the cops in Lowndes county. Even the ones in Remerton.

    In fact about a year ago I was shooting with my dad at our subdivision and a county deputy pulled up. Since the subdivision has grown considerably in the past 5 years I figured he was going to tell us to pack it in because of a noise complaint but he just watched and bs'd with my dad while I finished off a box of 9 and .22
     
  4. Gunstar1

    Gunstar1 Administrator

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    Or clipped to the inside pocket of a jacket.
     
  5. Rammstein

    Rammstein New Member

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    Things heard in the gunstore are nearly always humorous.
     
  6. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    Take a GPO and GCO flyer next time.
     
  7. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    When I got my AR, one o fthe guys at Bullseye in Lawrenceville was explaining to a customer that open carry is illegal in GA.
     
  8. Rammstein

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    #-o

    Did you correct him and tell him there is no such prohibition if one has a GFL?
     
  9. legacy38

    legacy38 Active Member

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    Probably another case of getting OC w/o a License in other states being legal.
     
  10. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    I've always considered Mexican carry to be where you shove the gun inside your waist sans holster, which also, to me, usually means concealed.

    Legal or illegal it's a good way to accidentally remove yourself from the gene pool.
     
  11. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    A pistol carried by a man with no effort to conceal it; with the barrel inserted beneath the pantaloons in front, whilst the man's coat was unbuttoned, and the man had on no vest at the time; that the cock, cylinder, and caps of the pistol could be plainly and distinctly seen, and any person could know that it was a pistol, without any difficulty, is not concealed. Stockdale v. State, 32 Ga. 225 (1861).

    I am going to start calling it "pantaloon carry." :wink:
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    I know I'll get corrected, too, but that is my take on it, unless you have transparent pockets, in which case I think it would be fine without a holster.
     
  13. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    No, take that whole OCGA Code book. The big black one, title 16. It must weigh almost 5 pounds. If you hit him just right, you can probably knock him unconscious with it.
     
  14. slabertooch

    slabertooch New Member

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    Now that is the definition of "Using the Law"
     
  15. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Did you talk to LEOs, or was this guy just mouthing off about them? If so, he may not have known what he was talking about. See post above about Code book.
     
  16. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    I wonder if I can borrow that one from the library? Probably not :(
     
  17. ber950

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    Code Section 16-11-129 and the pistol, revolver, or firearm may only be carried in a shoulder holster, waist belt holster, any other holster, hipgrip, or any other similar device

    And I would argue that a pocket is a similar device to a holster. Especially if it buttons or zips. I think we have overthought this, but I don't want to be the test case. :shock:
     
  18. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    A little, especially considering when the original poster didn't really express any doubt in his analysis of the issue.
     
  19. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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