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Hi, has anybody here ever been to, or lived in Austin, TX before? I'll be heading there in a couple of weeks, and I want to know some places that I shouldn't miss while I'm there. Things I need to do.

Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you in advance. :D
 

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Thank you, New2Atlanta. I really appreciate the help. :D :righton:

I'll have to check them all out. I'm going on business, but will be going out there alone. I hear Austin is a great city, so I'm looking to enjoy my time there as much as possible.

It will also be the 4th time I've flown, but the 1st time I've flown on my own.
 

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Lance Armstrong's bike shop http://www.mellowjohnnys.com/ I'm not a biker, but it was cool to see alot of his race bikes. There is some good Barbecue joints around there also.

Another thing to see is the bats that come out from under a bridge at sun set. Hundreds of thousands of them. Look for Bat Colony on this map http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/austin360/tia ... wn2010.jpg

Downtown Austin is a pretty cool place I think.

You ought to walk around the University of Texas campus. It is something to see if you have time.

There is a very nice Cabela's several miles west of Austin if you have a car.
 

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Check out the live music on 6th street. The whole street is nothing but bars and clubs with live music all of the time. I forget the name of one of the places, but they have two piano players and do lots of great music with comedy improv. There are lots of great restaurants in that area too. The Oasis restaurant out in the Bee Caves area is awesome too (incredible outdoor view over the lake), but would be much better in warmer weather...
 

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Thank you, Tmoore and Red Dawn, I'll definitely have to check out the bats, that sounds cool. I won't have a car, but I'm sure I can get a taxi. I'll be walking a lot of places as well. I'd love to see the campus as well. I'm excited now.

Thanks again, both of you. :D
 

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Apparently there's some bridge that has like 1,000,000 bats under it or something and if you shoot at them they all fly away in a huge black screeching cloud.

Then there's the Stevie Ray Vaughan memorial statue.

That's really all I know about Austin, TX.
 

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Apparently there's some bridge that has like 1,000,000 bats under it or something and if you shoot at them they all fly away in a huge black screeching cloud.
MesaCranker said:
Then there's the Stevie Ray Vaughan memorial statue.

That's really all I know about Austin, TX.
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Apparently there's some bridge that has like 1,000,000 bats under it or something and if you shoot at them they all fly away in a huge black screeching cloud.

Then there's the Stevie Ray Vaughan memorial statue.

That's really all I know about Austin, TX.
I guess Texas is known for its bats?

I Googled "Austin, Tx attractions" and got the Texas Memorial Museum. It's free.
 

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MesaCranker said:
Apparently there's some bridge that has like 1,000,000 bats under it or something and if you shoot at them they all fly away in a huge black screeching cloud.

Then there's the Stevie Ray Vaughan memorial statue.

That's really all I know about Austin, TX.
I heard rumors that SRV used to just stroll into this one bar in Austin and sit down and play with the guy already playing. It was a cool type thing, everybody knew not to flip out and make a big deal about it, they just sat back and listened to those sick blues riffs just flowing out of the electric guitar. Sick.

Its a shame he died, but I am definitely going to the museum. He is one of my favorite artist of all time. His version of Voodoo Chile was one of the first songs I learned on my guitar when I was in high school. Actually SRV songs were probably the first three of four songs I learned when I got my guitar.
 

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lespaulplayer said:
MesaCranker said:
Apparently there's some bridge that has like 1,000,000 bats under it or something and if you shoot at them they all fly away in a huge black screeching cloud.

Then there's the Stevie Ray Vaughan memorial statue.

That's really all I know about Austin, TX.
I guess Texas is known for its bats?

I Googled "Austin, Tx attractions" and got the Texas Memorial Museum. It's free.
40 Million BATS! :shock: Wicked scary. I'll try and check out the museum as well. I love free. :D
 

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Update: I'm back from my Texas trip.

I just thought I'd update the forum on how it went.

I flew out of Birmingham, to Houston, and then got a connector to Austin. Reverse on the way back. First of all, no porno scanners were up and running, I saw no pat downs, either. I, of course, had a lot of audio and video running on me in case I had to call local LEO because someone touched my junk. It appears the protest have done some good during the holiday season. It will be interested to see what happens when the holidays are over. The TSA were mainly friendly and jovial. They were much better than some of the :3hat: in the Continental crew. Freaking Unions! I'll pay the extra next time and fly Southwest.

My contact out there took me around Austin. I really liked it. I got to see the bats, I also walked around the campus and saw the tower where that nut job shot a bunch of people. The bars were pretty cool as well. The SRV museum was awesome.

The food was incredible on the entire trip, BBQ was unbelievable, steaks as well, and of course, the Mexican food was like nothing I had ever had here in Georgia. I think you could make an argument about moving to Texas just on the food alone.

In the Brenham Cafe, I noticed a huge sign that said bringing a firearm into the restaurant was a felony that carried a 10 year prison sentence! :shock: Talk about Draconian laws! They served beer there, but not one person was drinking when we went there. They were obviously a restaurant that served alcohol, not the other way around.

Now for the kicker, Continental was a freaking mess. In Houston, I had about three hours to kill on the way home before hoping on my flight to Birmingham. I'm sitting in the terminal when this nice fellow named Dale came and sat beside me and we just start talking, small talk VERY QUIETLY. I really didn't think many around us could hear us or anything. We were being quiet. He brought up politics, something I don't try to bring up with strangers unless they do first. If it seems we're going to butt heads, I usually just try to stay as nice as possible, and not completely tick the other person off. I just try to be as nice, pleasant, and persuasive as possible. Give facts ya know.

Well we get to start talking about what's wrong with the country, the root causes, and how our government continues to further encroach on our privacy, freedoms, and economy/business, ect. We were having a great conversation when a "self-proclaimed" Marine sat down, and I really didn't even notice him that much. We're still talking rather quietly, trying not to let everyone around us hear everything we're saying. I guess a few people right there in our general area could hear us. He did look and pretty much act like a Marine, but I have no way to be sure he was. Very lean, muscular, taller than me by quite a good bit, and clean cut hair, high and tight. I guess he sat there and listened for a while. Next thing I know he announces to everyone around us, very loudly, "Ohh my God! Not another one of you, have you ever been overseas? Ever been to Iraq?" I tell him no, I haven't. He then goes on to tell me that "I need to keep my mouth shut, because until I've been to a country like that, I have no idea how free we are here." I told him thank you for your service, I greatly appreciated it. I told him I understood how bad other countries are, but that doesn't mean we still couldn't change our country back to the founder's vision for our State and Federal governments of 1789 and make it better, and ditch the unconstitutional Nation government that we have now. I tell him that we can still strive for change, and restoring our government, and making our country and our citizens better off in the end. Then it really sets him off, "Ohh you're one of those people." I tell him that I'm not any kind of person, I just want my lawful, provable government back. He doesn't understand, so I tell him some facts, court cases, and laws to look up, and I tell him to please research if he likes, don't take my word on it.

We may have said a few more things, but I don't recall them all right now. I'll write more if and when I remember it.

Then SHTF. He stands up, gets in my face, goes all drill sergeant on me, looks crazy and possessed out of his eyes, starts calling me a whiny :censored: and starts cussing me out, freaking out, calling me all types of names and raising his voice a good bit, just below shouting. Apparently, if you're not in the military you're not allowed to speak, state facts, or express an opinion on anything in his eyes. I tell him that I'm not just whining about things, I actually get out there and do things to try to get the right kind of change in our country. Completely shouting over what I said, he then starts to shout that I'm an Obama voter because I said the word "change." A lot more cussing, yelling, name-calling. I correct him very nicely on that as well. This entire time, I never raised my voice, I just said concise corrections, in a nice, friendly way, never raising it, normal voice, just as I would be talking to anyone around me.

At this point, about 50 people are all sitting around staring at this guy as he freaks out, turns completely red in the face. I, of course, ask him to please calm down, before TSA or law enforcement comes over. He then, gets all huffy and red in the face, stomps off for a few seconds, and TSA, is just staring at this guy keeping an eye on him. I'm glad he's gone, but I'm still waiting for him to come back. After that, everyone just kind of sat there, awkward, and I'm thinking to myself, whoa, that guy needs to calm down. I hope he doesn't have any mental problems or anything.

A few seconds pass and he stomps back, very quickly, gets in my face, same crap, name calling, yelling, cussing, and then he tells me he wants to go outside and whoop my :censored: . I start to try to defuse the situation, but nothing is calming this guy down. He starts to push me in the chest, I'm sitting he's standing, and I fight the urge to grab his arm as he's pushing me in the chest. He's pushing me hard enough to move my chair each time. All the while he is talking about going outside and settling this like men. I'm still trying to diffuse it without getting physical.

Some things I know, he may or may not be a Marine or trained, I am not, I've got 3 herniated Lumbar disc in my back for a total of 21 mm, and if I get into any type of physical confrontation with this guy, I'm toast. On the ground, screaming, crying, blood curdling pain. Getting physical with this guy is the absolutely last self-defense option that I want to engage in. Of course, I'm not armed, so if he starts to stop my brains into the carpet, there is nothing I'm going to do about it. Everyone just sits around... doing nothing.

Finally, after what seems like an eternity, TSA and Law Enforcement arrive. One of the officers restrain him and take him away. Thank goodness! :whew: He doesn't fight, he just keeps talking crap, as he walks away with them. He finally starts to calm down right before he disappeared from my sight. A TSA agent and an officer start asking questions. They were really nice, and apologized it had gone that long, and they were sorry they didn't get there sooner, before he came back. He said they were hustling to get there.

I answered all their questions, and they talked to a few people around us. All agreed he was out of control, and it all had started with a simple political discussion that he butted in on. They also said that I never said anything aggressive or mean to him that should have set him off. They all agreed that the guy had issues, and I didn't really do anything to escalate the situation. I then wrote a very short report up about what happened. A few others did too. I never asked if they were going to charge him with disorderly or anything. LEO and I never talked about assault and battery charges, as I think the guy needed some help, and I doubt jail time would help this guy out. This guy may need therapy. If not for PSDs because of war, then maybe he was just a civilian with problems, but I will say he looked like a Marine, and acted like one. I have no way to prove that he was, though.

Of course, by this point, I'm sweaty, nervous, heartbeat out of control, breathing heavy, adrenalin pumping, and I can finally start to calm myself down a little bit, and get back to normal. Of course, then I had to sit there and think about what I would have/could have done had he swung on me, and started kicking the crap out of me had I gone down. I was completely unarmed, besides I had my car keys, but it would have been hard to get a good wound placement while laying on the ground. I would have had to strike before he did. Probably something that would have been illegal. When I think keys, I think soft spots around the face, neck, ect.

Funny thing is, earlier, I had a conversation with an Army guy about legalizing drugs. He disagreed with me on it, but everything stayed cool, and we agreed to disagree.

This was one messed up situation, and I really hope this guy gets the help that he needs. Anyway, just thought I would share that, as it shows you can find yourself in a bad place very quickly at the most "secure" and benign places.

I didn't talk politics with anyone else in public for the rest of the trip, even when they brought it up, I'd change the subject.

Word to the wise, never talk politics in public today, even if the other person agrees with you, because of who might be listening in on our conversation.

Its a shame that today, in America, you cannot express an opinion, facts, or just have political conversations, without someone freaking out, and then threatening to beat you up. Its getting ridiculous.
 

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I wonder about the brain power of anyone who gets out of control in an airport these days, or even involved in the slightest problem.

Good way to get your day ruined at least, maybe banned from your airline, or worse banned from flying at all.

As to politics, only about 30% of us adults who live in the U.S. know anything about government, law, national events, politics... and half of them are wrong !
 

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EJR914 said:
Some things I know, he may or may not be a Marine or trained, I am not, I've got 3 herniated Lumbar disc in my back for a total of 21 mm, and if I get into any type of physical confrontation with this guy, I'm toast. On the ground, screaming, crying, blood curdling pain. Getting physical with this guy is the absolutely last self-defense option that I want to engage in. Of course, I'm not armed, so if he starts to stop my brains into the carpet, there is nothing I'm going to do about it. Everyone just sits around... doing nothing.
What has your doctor said about exercise? Do you have any weight to lose? I have 2 herniated disks (L5-S1) from a car accident when I was 17 and thought I was doomed for the rest of my life. I couldn't get out of bed some days. I lost over 40 pounds last year and started lifting weights again to strengthen my back. I haven't had any back pain since and its been great. I feel like I did before my accident. This also brings up another good point. It might be worth it for some people (myself included) to learn some hand to hand combat for those times when we simply do not have our firearm or anything that can be used as a weapon within arms reach. I learned how to protect myself because of martial arts (stopped a long time ago :oops: ) and sparring but would love to learn new techniques that can truly be applied to the street. We train ourselves regularly to be proficient with our firearms but how much do we do in regards to our hands and feet?
I have to watch how much I exercise and what I do. Its fairly strict. I do have some weight to lose, and its a goal for the year, and really in this next month. I want to lose a few pounds every month of this year. Do it nice and slowly, and try to make it a lifestyle change and not a quick weightloss, with a turn around to weight gain that I have experience in the past. Its going to have to be a lifestyle change.

I've got three herniated disc, between L5-L4, L4-L3, L3-L2 vertebrae and then the disc between my coccyx, is also severely deteriorated.

I may actually have Disc Deterioration Disease, which could be very bad. It means my whole back could go out as I get older.

The doctor says that if I lose all the weight, it can only, of course, help. It can possibly relieve some of the pain, but he said that mine is such a severe case, 21 mm+ of herniation between the disc, that no matter what I do, I will always have pain.

The only shot I have is to wait until I'm older, and I have so much pain that burning nerves, and Celebrex, Baclofen, and Nortriptalene no longer work to relieve the pain, and then have disc replacement surgery, which has a 30% chance of having more pain or even becoming paralyzed, through scar tissue or another mistake. Its such a sensitive area, nobody will cut on me until I'm older, and I am unable to walk or more around because of the pain.

Right now I'm unemployed, so I had to not go ahead with a very expensive nerve burning procedure, so I'm living off of Celebrex, Baclofen, and Nortriptalene. I only take a pain pill when I absolutely have to, and that's probably once a month or less. This is great, as my pain is really controlled through keeping the lube in my joints my fighting the arthritis. I feel a little arthritis pain all the time, and it can get intense if I do a lot of work.

The Celebrex does a fairly good job with the arthritis, but the big problem I have is with my muscles, because the Axial load of my back has been so fundamentally changed, that the muscle spasms muscle spasms are incredibly painful. It will basically feel as though I'm being tazed. It will take me down to the ground, I will scream, yell, and after about 10 minutes straight of it, I will start to cry, that is until an EMT picks me up and puts me on a stretcher and gives me something to make me pass out. Then they can give me a strong muscle relaxer at the hospital that can help the spasms stop.

It basically feels like the right and left sides of my back, even all the way to my abs is trying to rip my spinal chord out of my body, and essentially, that is what is happening during these ridiculous muscle spasms. The herniated disc literally crush my peripheral nerves. Usually during that, I will have peripheral nerve pain, that feels like someone is holding two blue hot torches up to both of my legs. Once they get that under control, they can usually get the nerve pain to lessen as well.

I really cannot do much physical exercise, and I desperately wanted to train in Krav Maga, because I had a good friend that was well trained in it, and MMA, but I was upfront about my problem, and they told me they couldn't accept me, because there is no way I could do the training and keep up. They told me once I had surgery or somehow got better, that they could re-evaluate me. My friend basically taught me a few key moves for self-defense in Krav Maga, and I practice them daily, and I also, train with him sometimes, which means taking it easy and not really going through the moves in real time, and I bear no weight on my body at all during training.

I'm hoping that the weight I lose will allow me to do more and more physical exercise as I slowly lose the weight, and then basically zoom in on my mid-section and back muscles, and just strengthen them so they can hold more of the load without spasm. Its going to be a tough road, but I'm determined to get well enough to get some real hand-to-hand training with a group. Not that I'm not appreciative for what my friend showed me, but I really must go full on to be able to really pull them off in real life. I know the moves, I just can't put any weight to them right now.

If I tried to throw a punch or put someone in a head lock or whatever right now, my muscles would spasm, and I would then become incapacitated, then I could get my head kicked in. I would go physical if this guy would have swung on me, but it probably would not have ended well for me. Trying to deescalate a situation was definitely in my best interest. If I would have been forced to go hands on, the way my back is now, I would have been at his mercy, not too far into the physical confrontation.
 

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EJR914 - Glad to hear that you did not get attacked and injured. But, I think charges might have been appropriate here. That guy sounds like he is a ticking time bomb. ( :screwy: ) Chances are, he was escorted around the corner and then told "Soldier,you need to behave yourself or we will have to call your C.O.." He needs to be dealt with before he actually does do bodily injury to someone. Did law enforcement even take an actual report and give you a report number to follow up with?
 

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EJR914 - Glad to hear that you did not get attacked and injured. But, I think charges might have been appropriate here. That guy sounds like he is a ticking time bomb. ( :screwy: ) Chances are, he was escorted around the corner and then told "Soldier,you need to behave yourself or we will have to call your C.O.." He needs to be dealt with before he actually does do bodily injury to someone. Did law enforcement even take an actual report and give you a report number to follow up with?
Thank you. I appreciate it. Charges could have definitely been filed. Yeah, the way he acted, he definitely seems like he is wound a little bit too tight. I don't know what the officers did with him, but that could have happened, I don't know. The truth is, the officers seemed really ticked at the guy for acting that way in the first place. Especially, just over a simple political conversation.

I don't think I was given a report number or anything like that. I guess I could call and find out, but I really wasn't interested in it, I just hope the guy gets some therapy and help. I'm thinking PSDs maybe.

He did say he had done quite a few tours in Iraq, and that America was the greatest nation in the world, and I needed to quit whining because I had no idea what I was talking about. Basically, because I hadn't been over there, to see how lucky we are here, that I cannot ask our government to improve and restore our Constitution of 1789. He thought I was basically being un-patriotic, and just whining, little did he know that I'm active in protesting and supporting those that go into court to question the system.

I'm not sure what a butt whoopin would have done to make me more Patriotic. I guess he just didn't like the fact that I was expressing my 1st amendment rights. :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:
 
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