Terry Search

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by gizmo5, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. gizmo5

    gizmo5 New Member

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    Just wanted some input from someone who actually knows about LEO reasons for pulling you over. Can they pull you over without probable cause? Basically can they say "I just pulled you over for a routine stop/search?"
     
  2. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    I don't believe that they can under normal circumstances. There are special situations though. The DOT or a city/county Commercial Vehicle Enforcement officer would stop commercial trucks for an occasional "roadside inspection". They frequently stop dump trucks running up and down 575/515 near the mining areas around Jasper. The same with logging trucks heading towards Inland Paper outside of Rome.
     

  3. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    What is the reasoning (legal or not) for this?
     
  4. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    They are also known as "Public Safety Officers"...which is what they are doing, ensuring your public safety.
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Depends.

    Which country are we discussing?
     
  6. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    Commercial vehicle safety inspection. They check all lights, look at tires, occasionaly they will check for slack in air brake adjusters, they will sometimes check for proper operation of low brake air wanring buzzer, check for fire ext, flares/triangles, daily vehicle inspection form, drivers logs, proper placards, proper manifests for haz mats, tire damage...etc...etc...etc..

    They even weighed one of our unloaded vacuum tankers on the side of the road one day, to make sure the driver wasn't running an overweight vehicle.
     
  7. AV8R

    AV8R Banned

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    Improper lane usage would be a great way to stop you without real PC.
     
  8. gizmo5

    gizmo5 New Member

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    the USofA
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, then, they can stop you on any traffic violation, even if they also do not like you. Whren v. U.S. They could also stop you on a reasonable suspicion of a crime, but not just because they want to stop you for no reason.

    Search is a different issue once they have you stopped. I suggest you read Megesi v. State., which link leads you to a different page of this site.

    :D
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    I think Legacy 38 will also tell you to Google the Carroll Doctrine.
     
  11. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    i was driving my hearse down jonesboro rd. in forest park
    and got pulled over to see if i was wearing a seat belt.
    i was so the officer said have a nice day. that was it.
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  13. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    yea, i was 1975 caddy and they had a lap belt and the
    shoulder belt clipped onto it if you wanted t wear it
    i didn't so it was in it's little holder above the door.
    guess he didn't see a shoulder belt and assumed i
    wasn't wearing a belt.
     
  14. kkennett

    kkennett New Member

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    This is a big topic. To be clear, though, Terry searches and traffic stops are not one in the same. Different requirements. Certainly, Terry searches frequently accompany traffic stops.
     
  15. Macktee

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    Hey Tony:

    Cool!

    Do you belong to the PCS or one of the other groups?

    I don't as I don't have a dead sled. I'd love one, but am afraid my wife really would leave me if I bought one!!!

    Maybe something like this:

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    :oldtimer:
     
  16. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    no to PCS they are a militant group.
    i no longer have my hearse but i will be
    getting another someday. i'll see if i can find a
    pic of the one i had and post it.
    www.dead-ends.com
    is the local club. we started with 5 members
    now we have spin-off clubs all over the U.S
    and even a chapter in sweden.
     
  17. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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  18. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    they think any kind of mod. to the car, you have destoyed it, i'm
    talking even if you change the wheels.
    believe me, they are a militant group.
    go to our website click on media then click on any of the ones
    that say monsterbash and you can see some of our cars.
    if you click on the one that says cruise april 21 the first pic
    is my hearse. that's my son standing next to it.
    www.dead-ends.com