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Another sad fact that reducing the number of guns wont stop suicides either. :cry:

CDC: Suicide Rate for Pre-Teen, Teen Girls Jumps to Highest Level in 15 Years

Thursday, September 06, 2007

The suicide rate among preteen and teenage girls rose to its highest level in 15 years, and hanging surpassed guns as the preferred method, federal health officials reported Thursday.

The report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests a surprising reversal in recent trends.

The biggest jump â€" about 76 percent â€" was in the suicide rate for girls ages 10-14 from 2003 to 2004. There were 94 suicides in that age group in 2004, compared to 56 in 2003. That's a rate of fewer than one per 100,000 population.

Suicide rates among all American young people, ages 10 to 24, fell 28 percent from 1990-2003. But in 2004 it shot back up by 8 percent, driven largely by increases among females aged 10-19 and males aged 15-19.

"In surveillance speak, this is a dramatic and huge increase," said Dr. Ileana Arias, director of the CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

Overall, suicide was the third leading cause of death among young Americans in 2004, accounting for 4,599 deaths. It is surpassed by only car crashes and homicide, Arias said.

The study also documented a change in suicide method. In 1990, guns accounted for more than half of all suicides among young females. By 2004, though, death by hanging and suffocation became the most common suicide method. It accounted for about 71 percent of all suicides in girls aged 10-14, 49 percent among those aged 15-19 and 34 percent between 20-24.

"While we can't say (hanging) is a trend yet, we are confident that's an unusually high number in 2004," said Dr. Keri Lubell, a CDC behavioral scientist who was one of the lead authors of study.

The study did not analyze why hanging has become the most common suicide method, but scientists speculated it could be the most accessible method.

"It is possible that hanging and suffocation is more easily available than other methods, especially for these other groups," Arias said.

The CDC is advising health officials to consider focusing suicide-prevention programs on girls ages 10-19 and boys between 15-19 to reverse the trends. It also said the suicide methods suggest that prevention measures focused solely on restricting access to pills, weapons or other lethal means may have more limited success.

Arias said the declining use of antidepressants could be a factor in the spike. But she noted it's "not the only factor" that health officials will be studying to explain the jump. Four years ago, federal regulators began warning that antidepressants seemed to raise the risk of suicidal behavior, and prominent warnings were added to packaging.

A drop in sales of the drugs corresponds with the rise in suicides.

"Suicide is a multidimensional and complex problem," Arias said. "As much as we'd like to attribute suicide to a single source so we can fix it, unfortunately we can't do that."

The study mentioned other factors that tend to increase the risk of suicide, including history of mental illness, alcohol and drug use, family dysfunction and relationship problems.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295953,00.html
 

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But think of the children! We must ban ropes to protect the children.

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I get a different take on that story. Since hanging is being used as the method for suicide more often than guns, and guns are obviously a more effective/quick way to actually kill yourself... then I guess the argument that guns in the home leads to suicides is incorrect. Or you could replace it "with any object in the home, suicides are more likely."
 

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You mean people that don't own/drive/transport themselves in cars are less likely to die in car accidents? :shock: :wink:
 

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Suicide rates among all American young people, ages 10 to 24, fell 28 percent from 1990-2003. But in 2004 it shot back up by 8 percent, driven largely by increases among females aged 10-19 and males aged 15-19.
The Clinton anti-gun retoric playbook comes out again.
 

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I think what it means is...

Girls don't understand/like guns.

Girls don't have access to guns.

Girls don't know how to operate guns.

Girls are afraid of guns. Which is strange considering they are going to end their lives.

Girls don't want to make a mess. Really! That's a major reason girls and women don't use guns to kill themselves.

Pills and hanging are much neater and quieter than guns, which girls may not have access to anyway.

Anyone who takes his/her own life is to be pitied. How sad that ending one's life is the only solution to the problems a person has. What's really sad is most suicides give advance warning to family and friends. Warnings which are ignored or not understood. Kids from loving and attentive homes rarely end their lives. Rarely, but it happens.

What a waste......

Sad. If anyone has known someone who's taken her own life, you'll understand. If not, I don't think you possibly can understand.
 

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Macktee said:
Anyone who takes his/her own life is to be pitied.
I disagree in the case of physician assisted suicide. When people are near the end of their life or have a terminal disease they should be able to die at a time of their choosing and should not be looked down upon for that choice.
 

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Rammstein said:
Macktee said:
Anyone who takes his/her own life is to be pitied.
I disagree in the case of physician assisted suicide. When people are near the end of their life or have a terminal disease they should be able to die at a time of their choosing and should not be looked down upon for that choice.
I concur. Its my life. If at the end of it I am faced with an agonizing death that will take away my dignity and bankrupt my family, the government should have no say in how I choose to die. But since I don't really care what the government thinks on this subject anyway ....
 

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Rammstein said:
Macktee said:
Anyone who takes his/her own life is to be pitied.
I disagree in the case of physician assisted suicide. When people are near the end of their life or have a terminal disease they should be able to die at a time of their choosing and should not be looked down upon for that choice.
Sure, but I don't think Macktee meant to cover that case. I am in full agreement with both of you.
 

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I wonder what the main reasons given for the suicides were. I blame hollywood and their "liberal" views putting these girls with ideas that they aren't pretty or that they aren't thin enough or that they need to be like this or that. BAN LIBERAL THINKING!
 

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budder said:
Rammstein said:
Macktee said:
Anyone who takes his/her own life is to be pitied.
I disagree in the case of physician assisted suicide. When people are near the end of their life or have a terminal disease they should be able to die at a time of their choosing and should not be looked down upon for that choice.
Sure, but I don't think Macktee meant to cover that case. I am in full agreement with both of you.
Yes, if some one is contemplating suicide as a result of depression, we're obliged to help that person... perhaps give them an iPhone
 

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Sad. If anyone has known someone who's taken her own life, you'll understand. If not, I don't think you possibly can understand.
May 2005 - My daughters school mate (male) is pretending to kill himself with a hanging...when he actually does it.

November, 2005 - my neighbors 19 year old boy kills himself with a gun. Two months later the father almost did the same.

July 2007 - My kids friend has a brother that kills himself.

Last night - My daughters friend (male) put a 38 in his mouth and killed himself.

I posted the article because from my perspective it seems ludicrous to say that gun control will prevent suicide. When someone is going to that extreme to end their pain, guns or no guns, they'll make it happen. It seems that the statistics are proving that.

You know, when I was a teenager, 25+/- years ago, I can remember one kid committing suicide. I am tempted to agree with anyone that states the higher rates of suicide are a reflection of society's view of life and its worth as its evolved over the decades. :2cents:
 

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You know, when I was a teenager, 25+/- years ago, I can remember one kid committing suicide. I am tempted to agree with anyone that states the higher rates of suicide are a reflection of society's view of life and its worth as its evolved over the decades. :2cents:
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Remember, we no longer value the individual, but the group. If you aren't part of the right group, what does that do to your self-worth?

*Note: "we" != the folks on this board, but our society in general.
 

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M249 said:
Remember, we no longer value the individual, but the group. If you aren't part of the right group, what does that do to your self-worth?

*Note: "we" != the folks on this board, but our society in general.
Nah. "We," too. If you ain't GCO, you don't count. :D
 

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Mobster989 said:
I wonder what the main reasons given for the suicides were. I blame hollywood and their "liberal" views putting these girls with ideas that they aren't pretty or that they aren't thin enough or that they need to be like this or that. BAN LIBERAL THINKING!
Good point, mobster :righton:
 
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