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Anyone have personal comparisons for either of these?

Have read some opinions on each gun, but not how they compare.

Planning on purchasing a new pistol this month and can't decide what to get!
 

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I guess I should state the purpose of the gun to be helpful.

I have a .380 acp for CC purposes.

This gun would just be an addistion to home defense as well as some additional fun at the range.

I'm not 100% sold on either of them. I picked up about 11 different 9mm guns at the store the other day and these are the ones that felt best:

1.) Walther P99
2.) Springfield XDM 4.5"
3.) S & W - M&P

I didn't get a chance to hold a phantom, but have read great things about them.
 

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Be safe: buy them all.

Ok, well, short of that, I've tried the XDm and the M&P, with my preference going to the XDM. However, it should be pointed out that 1) I'm a Springfield fan and 2) there are users here on the forum with the M&P and have had plenty of good things to say about it.

My next pistol will be an XDm - I just haven't centered on if it will be a 3.8" 9mm or a 4.5" .45.
 

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Backup is the issue I'm looking at. I already carry a full size Springfield 1911 (which I can CC fine) and it would be nice to have either a backup or an alternate carry for times when I want something smaller. If it was purely a range gun or for home defense, then for me I would do the 4.5" in a .45.

The 4.5" will give you a little extra accuracy and control over the gun (in my opinion anyway), so I usually look to full size for daily carry when I can and the smaller guns as backup carry. I have a preference for the .45 caliber, so my primary is generally chambered for that.
 

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I used to have an XDm 9mm and sold it (like a moron). I really liked the way it sat in my hand. That being said, I've held a CZSP01 and it felt pretty nice too. Didn't get a chance to shoot it though. I wish I had. I would say you really can't go wrong with either one. I haven't held the M&P.

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Be safe: buy them all.

Ok, well, short of that, I've tried the XDm and the M&P, with my preference going to the XDM. However, it should be pointed out that 1) I'm a Springfield fan and 2) there are users here on the forum with the M&P and have had plenty of good things to say about it.

My next pistol will be an XDm - I just haven't centered on if it will be a 3.8" 9mm or a 4.5" .45.
You know the new XDm 3.8 Compact has started shipping. Looks like I might be getting one of those. Although the .45 would be really nice.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/home.html
 

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There was no reason for Springfield to create the XDm 9mm 3.8", without also making the grip smaller. Everyone that carries knows that the grip is the hardest thing to conceal. So why just make the barrel shorter? It doesn't make any sense to me. I would have seriously looked at getting a 3.8 if they would have also shortened the grip like the size of a Glock 19. Not full size, but not sub-compact either. I like XDms, i just didn't like this decision.

The next 9mm I will consider buying will be a FNH FNX 9. I like that it can be carried cocked and locked with a thumb safety engaged, but can also be carried DA/SA if you want. (I carry a full size 1911 cocked and locked) It has ambi controls and several back straps to choose from. I haven't gotten my hands on one, but I like what I see from the reviews online.

BTW..............a fellow forum member is trying to sell his XDm 9 here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53549
 

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I love my XDm, and really hate to sell it, but I need to fund another purchase.

PM has been sent.

Jerry
 

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tmoore912 said:
There was no reason for Springfield to create the XDm 9mm 3.8", without also making the grip smaller. Everyone that carries knows that the grip is the hardest thing to conceal. So why just make the barrel shorter? It doesn't make any sense to me. I would have seriously looked at getting a 3.8 if they would have also shortened the grip like the size of a Glock 19. Not full size, but not sub-compact either. I like XDms, i just didn't like this decision.
: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53549
Just for you, tmoore.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/CompactInfo.pdf
 

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IMR said:
tmoore912 said:
There was no reason for Springfield to create the XDm 9mm 3.8", without also making the grip smaller. Everyone that carries knows that the grip is the hardest thing to conceal. So why just make the barrel shorter? It doesn't make any sense to me. I would have seriously looked at getting a 3.8 if they would have also shortened the grip like the size of a Glock 19. Not full size, but not sub-compact either. I like XDms, i just didn't like this decision.
: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53549
Just for you, tmoore.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/CompactInfo.pdf
Glad I posted this question, and that you responded! That looks sexy and might has probably tipped the scales!
 

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Would there be a significant benefit (other than CC purposes) in the difference between 3.8 and 4.5 barrel length for a 9mm round? Nearly 3/4 of an inch.
 

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Better ballistics and accuracy with the longer barrel, but the 3.8" is more than adequate as a personal defense gun since you're not likely to need to shoot a bad guy at 25 yards+...
 

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IMR said:
tmoore912 said:
There was no reason for Springfield to create the XDm 9mm 3.8", without also making the grip smaller. Everyone that carries knows that the grip is the hardest thing to conceal. So why just make the barrel shorter? It doesn't make any sense to me. I would have seriously looked at getting a 3.8 if they would have also shortened the grip like the size of a Glock 19. Not full size, but not sub-compact either. I like XDms, i just didn't like this decision.
: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=53549
Just for you, tmoore.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/CompactInfo.pdf
IMR, thanks for that link. I haven't been to Springfield site in a while, and did not know about that upgrade to the 3.8. Looks promising. Can you get all your fingers (Average size hand) on a sub-compact XDm grip? That might be something I don't like about it. Oh, well.
 

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It looks like that they have extension pads for the mags (and extended mags) that allow you to switch from the compact grip to the more full size grip. I struggle with the smaller grips, but they obviously have benefits for CC. I was looking to pick up a 3.8" XDm in 9mm and this may be the way to go as it will offer more CC options as a backup piece. Nifty. Hopefully Santa saw this too.
 

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Would there be a significant benefit (other than CC purposes) in the difference between 3.8 and 4.5 barrel length for a 9mm round? Nearly 3/4 of an inch.
My full size XDm can get in the way sometimes when sitting or accessing pockets. I imagine the 3.8 may help with that.
 

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I would like to meet you at Bullseye one day to see how that phantom feels and shoots.

I was decided on the 4.5" xdm until someone posted the link to the new XDM, so I wanted to see how the new one was.

I got a call from Forsyth County Pawn today (great selection and prices of new and used, so don't let the "pawn" deter you) saying they received the new XDM 3.8" compact.

I went, I saw, I purchased. I can't shoot it until christmas because it is a "gift", so no write ups till then, though I am sure they will be just like the other xdm 9mm.





 

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Of your choices...I'd go with a Smith M&P in 9mm. If I were looking to purchase, I'd go with a Glock 19 (9mm).
 

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I would like to meet you at Bullseye one day to see how that phantom feels and shoots.

I was decided on the 4.5" xdm until someone posted the link to the new XDM, so I wanted to see how the new one was.

I got a call from Forsyth County Pawn today (great selection and prices of new and used, so don't let the "pawn" deter you) saying they received the new XDM 3.8" compact.

I went, I saw, I purchased. I can't shoot it until christmas because it is a "gift", so no write ups till then, though I am sure they will be just like the other xdm 9mm.
Me see, me like, me must acquire...
 
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