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I found a Mosin at a shop yesterday for a great price... the serials are unmatched and the stock looks kinda crappy, but the receiver and barrel are all in top notch condition. No pitting whatsoever.

For $60, I can get the gun, just for the parts.

Then I can get a new stock for $50.

Then I can get the barrel chromed for relatively cheap. Also get it drilled and tapped for a scope.

A decent scope and rings are about $200...

So basically, I can get a high-powered, accurate, reliable scoped hunting rifle for less than $400... what do y'all think?
 

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Well Snake, I don't know about making all those changes. It will give you a good hunting rifle for not all that much money. Lots of people did the same thing to Enfields and 1903s and other mil surp rifles when they were cheap and readily available. Now, an unmolested (as the collectors say) model is worth considerably more money than a sporterized one.

If you do all of that to it, you may come to regret your decision in, oh! say 10 or 20 years. However, until then, you'll have a nice gun to shoot. It's your decision and depends on your wants and needs.

The only advice I can give you, regardless of what you do, is to install a good quality recoil pad on it!!! You'll be amazed at the difference that makes.

Whatever you decide, we really would like to see pictures... Ummmm! Gun Porn!!!
 

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Macktee said:
Well Snake, I don't know about making all those changes. It will give you a good hunting rifle for not all that much money. Lots of people did the same thing to Enfields and 1903s and other mil surp rifles when they were cheap and readily available. Now, an unmolested (as the collectors say) model is worth considerably more money than a sporterized one.

If you do all of that to it, you may come to regret your decision in, oh! say 10 or 20 years. However, until then, you'll have a nice gun to shoot. It's your decision and depends on your wants and needs.

The only advice I can give you, regardless of what you do, is to install a good quality recoil pad on it!!! You'll be amazed at the difference that makes.

Whatever you decide, we really would like to see pictures... Ummmm! Gun Porn!!!
I've got an all-matched laminate stock 91/30 that's in pristine condition, and is going to stay that way.

This one is basically rescuing a rifle that should be put out of its misery... it was in terrible condition (except for the receiver).

I'm thinking I may even replace the barrel, but I don't know. I'm also examining the feasibility of floating the barrel, which would mean cutting the steps out of the bottom of it...
 

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May I ask that you not butcher a piece of history? Too many other guns/models of guns have been sporterized to the point that now it is rare to find them unsporterized. Why spend that kind of dough on an older rifle to cut up, when the same amount of cash would buy a new deer rifle and preserve history at the same time.

If you'd like to save the Mosin, the parts can be had easily. That way you have two nice rifles in military configuration. IMO the guns are just as good in mil config. Heck, they were designed to kill. They do just as good a job on 4 legged as 2 legged.

All the above is just my opinion and as you can probably tell I am into preservation and history. Now don't take any offense from this and feel free to do with your weapons as you'd like. Just please think about what I said and that's all I ask.
 

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Greetings,

I agree with repeatDefender, however, you could make just slight modifications that will go a looooong way without "damaging" the rifle and you could still go back.

I am in the process to add a scope, muzzle break and stock to a M44, but I will keep the old stock and the rear sight view, so I can bring it back to its "original" condition.

Here is the site for the mount and muzzle break. They sell not so bad scopes too.

http://www.combathunting.com/cart.cgi?group=0&child=205

For the stock, I'll use probably a TAPCO with recoil pad if the muzzle break doesn't do a good job.

Thank you
 

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RepeatDefender said:
May I ask that you not butcher a piece of history? Too many other guns/models of guns have been sporterized to the point that now it is rare to find them unsporterized. Why spend that kind of dough on an older rifle to cut up, when the same amount of cash would buy a new deer rifle and preserve history at the same time.

If you'd like to save the Mosin, the parts can be had easily. That way you have two nice rifles in military configuration. IMO the guns are just as good in mil config. Heck, they were designed to kill. They do just as good a job on 4 legged as 2 legged.

All the above is just my opinion and as you can probably tell I am into preservation and history. Now don't take any offense from this and feel free to do with your weapons as you'd like. Just please think about what I said and that's all I ask.
More than likely I'm just gonna throw a new stock and a scope on it.

I think floating the barrel will be cost-prohibitive.
 

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There are some really good scout mounts that don't require any drilling or tapping. They mount on the rear sight base. Several don't require any alterations to the bolt.

Also, a military stock can be had even cheaper than an ATI or other composite stock. If you're interested, I can provide you with details (I'm not trying to sell or advertise).
 

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RepeatDefender said:
There are some really good scout mounts that don't require any drilling or tapping. They mount on the rear sight base. Several don't require any alterations to the bolt.

Also, a military stock can be had even cheaper than an ATI or other composite stock. If you're interested, I can provide you with details (I'm not trying to sell or advertise).
I've been looking at one of the rear sight scope mounts.

Where might I find one of these military stocks?
 

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One more thing. Most of the muzzle brakes available for Mosins are crap. They will end up flying off the barrel or otherwise causing a dangerous situation at the range. Not trying to tell you not to use one, just stating a known fact amongst Mosin collectors.
 

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Gsusnake---PM inbound :D
Thanks.

If I do decide to mod this bad boy, I'll be sure to take pics and do a How To thread.
 

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RepeatDefender,

Did you take a look at that muzzle break on the address I put in my previous msg? It locks around the front sight, so that means it slides a good 1 1/2-2 inch on the barrel.

My friend installed one like those on his AK-47 (for AK model of course...hehehehe) and it is doing a quite nice job.

Maybe those guys installing the muzzle breaks on mosins use bad ones with bad fixes or fix them badly...

He is supposed to receive one for is M38 and we are going to shoot it this Saturday morning. It is sure if it doesn't look right we won't use it. I'll let you know if it is a piece of crap or if it is good.

Thank you
 

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Kestak---looks promising. Give it a try and let me know the results. Like you mentioned, many muzzle brakes are of poor quality...failures are bound to happen with junk products.

I'll be interested to know how this one works.
 

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kestak said:
Greetings,

Here is the site for the mount and muzzle break. They sell not so bad scopes too.

http://www.combathunting.com/cart.cgi?group=0&child=205
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Hey kestak:

Thanks for posting that site. They have quite a selection of gun-stuff and their prices seem very reasonable. What a cool toy store!!!

Thanks again... :righton:
 

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I tend to stay away from sporterizing Mausers and Mosins. Not just for the historical value, but for the actual usage

Yes they are cool guns, cheap and plentiful. But that prob wont be true in another 50-100 years, so original ones will be worth much more.

Plus, finding proper hunting ammo in those calibers is tough. 8mm Mauser is somewhat earier to find, but 7.62x54r is not..... soft point ammo is pricey in those calibers.

For a high-powered, accurate, scoped rifle -- for the $400 range, think no further than a Savage.

You can get a Savage 111 with 3-9x40 scope, in various calibers that are mass produced for the exact purpose of hunting (like 270 Win, 30-06) for around $350... plus they have the Accu-Trigger which is sweet -- lightyears better than a Mosin trigger.
 
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