South Carolina carry - differences with Georgia

Discussion in 'National Laws, Bills and Politics' started by apx_31088, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. apx_31088

    apx_31088 Member

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    South Carolina recently changed so that Weapon Reciprocity is now honored with Georgia.
    But even with Reciprocity, there are differences between what is allowed with weapon carry in those two states!
    Checking into this, looks like no open carry in SC, no carry in a person's home without that person's specific permission, and "No Gun" signs have legal weight. Have I missed anything?
     
  2. Dawgdoc

    Dawgdoc Well-Known Member

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    The signs have very specific criteria to be legal.

    Medical offices are one of their odd prohibited places.
     

  3. 45_Fan

    45_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Alcohol differences too.

    Honestly carry in places of worship is probably the item that has the highest similarity with Georgia...lots else is completely different.
     
  4. GAfirearmsReference

    GAfirearmsReference Weapons Law Booklet

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    South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) is in charge of gun permits.
    On their website they have links to three Code sections dealing with guns and off-limits locations.

    http://www.sled.sc.gov/SCStateGunLaws1.aspx?MenuID=CWP

    And here's SLED's summary of off-limits locations. This appears to be a paraphrase of various laws, not actual text from any Code section:


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    A Concealable Weapons Permit (CWP) holder is prohibited from carrying a handgun at these locations:


    Premises of private or public school, college, university, technical college, other post-secondary institution (without express permission of person in charge of premises)(Section 16-23-420)(Felony - $5000 and/or 5 years imprisonment)


    Inside public-owned buildings of any kind, except at Interstate highway rest areas (Section 16-23-420)(Felony - $5000 and/or 5 years imprisonment)


    Inside an establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of alcohol (Section 16-23-465)(Misdemeanor - $2000 and/or 3 years imprisonment)


    Into a private residence without permission of owner or person in legal control or possession, as appropriate (Section 23-31-225)(Misdemeanor - $1000 and/or 1 year imprisonment)


    A place where carrying is prohibited by proper sign (Section 23-31-235)(Misdemeanor - $200 or 30 days imprisonment)


    A CWP does not authorize carrying a firearm:

    Into a law enforcement office or facility

    Into a detention or correctional facility

    Into a courthouse or courtroom

    Into a polling place on election day

    Into an office or business meeting of a governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special purpose district

    Into a school or college athletic event not related to firearms

    Into a day care or pre-school facility

    Into a place where carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law

    Into a church or other established religious sanctuary, except with express permission of the appropriate church official or church governing body

    Into a hospital, medical clinic, doctor’s office, any facility where medical services or procedures are performed, except (employees of the facility) with express permission of the employer

    Violation of these provisions is a misdemeanor – not less than $1000 and/or imprisonment for 1 year and revocation of permit for 5 years.
     
  5. 00Dan

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    These all seem extremely harsh. The public buildings prohibition seems especially like it's just there to get people busted.
     
  6. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Like I said, the WORST gun laws in the South. SMH
     
  7. 00Dan

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    Almost makes me wonder why we bothered fighting to reciprocity. Seeing that list makes it easy to believe it's still illegal to carry in most places so why bother.
     
  8. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Kurt, you left out a place you can't carry in your list.........Public Transportation.

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t58c023.php

     
  9. TimBob

    TimBob Old, Slow, Boring Dude

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    Would the boat that goes to Fort Sumter be considered public transportation?
     
  10. Jmark

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    Handgunlaw.us says restuarant carry that serves alchohol is fine so long as it isn't posted and you don't conume any but this contradicts what they're saying.


    ETA: You left some very important parts of that code section out.

    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c023.php
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2016
  11. apx_31088

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    It's easy, and also unfortunate, to think that Georgia's carry laws default as "normal". And then find out that the laws of other states each create additional opportunities to criminalize carry behaviors that are protected rights in other states.
    So here's the $64,000 question - will nationwide carry reciprocity actually result in massively increasing criminal violations of state gun laws because of creating more opportunities for carriers from one state to accidentally/negligently run afoul of prohibitions in other states???
     
  12. 45_Fan

    45_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Well, would you risk transporting hollow points through New Jersey today?
     
  13. apx_31088

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    Yet another example of how national reciprocity would increase the incidence of accidental or negligent criminal acts by citizens doing what comes natural back in their home states?

    The unintended consequences of national reciprocity really bite.
     
  14. Rail

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    This is one reason I think 50-state shall-issue via SCOTUS should happen first. Let states get used to the idea of their own law-abiding citizens carrying, then all the little nitpicks with non-residents will fall as well: it's less of a psychological leap.
     
  15. Adam5

    Adam5 Atlanta Overwatch

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    It's no different that it is now. If you carry in a reciprocal state now, you need to know the laws of that state. National reciprocity will not change that.
     
  16. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Let's try to stay on topic with SC so this thread will be useful to Georgians visiting there.
     
  17. papacarry

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    Going to South Carolina next week for a short vacation. Seeing that since we now have reciprocity with them it almost doesn't mean much in the long run.

    1. Conceal Carry only
    2. Can carry in an establishment that serves alcohol but cannot drink any alcoholic beverages (?) <SMH>
    3. Have not idea where I might run into a 'No Guns' sign so I'm almost regulated to not carry at all.
    4. Apparently a knife over two inches is considered illegal so there goes my extra carry protection.

    Good times.
     
  18. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Just remember that the signs have to adhere to the code section to be legal.

    http://scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c031.php

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Coffee Kid

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    Duty to inform.