I have two pair of 5.11 pants hanging in my closet. Each has been worn twice at most. They are sized 32x30 but I am not. I paid $40 each plus shipping. What can I say about these? They are tactical. They have lots of pockets. Excellent condition as I said. They were each worn no more than twice before I added a couple of pounds and couldn't wear them any longer. For sale or trade as a "lot", it's both pairs or nothing here. Asking $40 shipped for both pairs. Will trade for GLOCK mags in 9mm. Must be full capacity and in as new condition. Might consider high quality Kydex gear for same.