Slave or Free?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by Malum Prohibitum, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.constitution.org/cmt/burgh/burgh.htm

     

  2. Malum Prohibitum

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    He appears to be quoting Andrew Fletcher, 1749.

    In 1749 Andrew Fletcher wrote, "Arms are the only true badges of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He who has nothing, and belongs to another, must be defended by him, and needs no arms: but he who thinks he is his own master, and has anything he may call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself and what he possesses, or else he lives precariously and at discretion."
     
  3. Malum Prohibitum

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    Andrew Fletcher in 1732:

    And I cannot see why arms should be denied to any man who is not a slave, since they are the only true badges of liberty; and ought never, but in times of utmost necessity, to be put into the hands of mercenaries or slaves: neither can I understand why any man that has arms should not be taught the use of them.
     
  4. gunsbillygun

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    i like that, thank you mp
     
  5. Rammstein

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    Good bit of history.

    Good post Malum.
     
  6. Malum Prohibitum

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    There are two or three good "signature lines" in there! :D
     
  7. slabertooch

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    I was watching Man, Moment, Machine last night on the Discovery channel, gun control goes further back than I thought. The Catholic Church in France instituted gun control laws that disarmed the Hugenots (protestant). The Law stated that no common man could posses a self-striking firearm, only the nobility could. The purpose was to ensure that the common man would not rise up against the indiscretions of the nobility and the church.
     
  8. Macktee

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    Gun control, like drug, liquor, guns, porn, sex, speech, smoking, selling on Sunday, spitting, driving, building, whatever you can think of control is always about control!

    Controlling the actions of others is far more important than whatever it's supposed to be controlling. It's a power, ego and control trip for those who can impose their own brand of morality on everyone else.