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collapse may lead to interest rate reductions, to keep other banks from failing. Which will lead to higher inflation. You know how the circle joins up.

What bank has your money. Remember, FDIC only covers 250K. But careful account strategies can cover a fair bit more.

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As a fiscal conservative, I say "no" to a tacks payer bail-out that exceeds a quarter-million per account.
 
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I thought after the mortgage / bank disaster 14 years ago they added stiff bank "health checks" that run every few months. Looks like they are not yet effective. Of course one of the requirements is to have lots of gov bonds, then they become less valuable as interest rates rise.
 

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from Josh Brown:

By the way, SVB’s failure is not a regulation story – they blew up with 10-year Treasurys on their books. It’s a story of what happens when the central bank blows a decade-long bubble in venture-backed startups culminating in the crypto-SPAC free-for-all orgy of 2021 – and then you try to reverse it all within a single calendar year with five hundred basis points of consecutive rate hikes. The biggest beneficiaries of zero-percent interest rates were tech founders and the bankers who loved them – Silicon Valley Bank as the epicenter of the whole thing. When rates began to rise and the IPO spigot began to close, the failure got underway. It took two years for the lack of deposits and burgeoning bond losses to weaken the bank – and then a single 24 hours in which $42 billion was withdrawn in the first-ever Twitter-inspired, mobile-app enabled digital bank run. During the Savings & Loan Crisis of the 1980’s, people had to physically show up to a branch to pull their deposits. Now you can do it by phone, from your bed, your bath or your beyond. This is some new shit nobody was ready for.

 

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What is a bank run?
Short answer, everyone running to the bank and withdrawing all their money. That leaves the bank with no money to pay their loans and salaries and such.

The bank is basically broke using your money to pay their bills and make money with. Many think banks are the biggest rip off ever designed by man.

Other think it the second, behind paper money.

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Banks operate by borrowing money short term from depositors and loaning it back out long term to borrowers. They also "invest" in stocks, bonds, etc. with those funds, which can sort of look like long term lending as well. If every depositor asked for their money back at the same time, or even a medium-sized percentage, the bank will run out of cash. Since everything in all investment categories is down due to rising interest rates, all their investments were down as well. The FDIC only insures the first $250K in deposits, which is enough for most individuals, but doesn't cover very many businesses. For example, a company that pays $10/hour for full-time employees every two weeks will exhaust $250K after a little over 300 employees. Roku had something north of $450 million in SVB for comparison. Companies got wind the bank had a liquidity issue when the bank sold equity (stocks) and moved their money out ASAP, making the problem worse. Since we have apps and 24 hour banking, the depositors didn't have to wait until the bank opened its doors, it happened overnight at Internet speed. The FDIC had to issue the "we will cover everything" statement or else every business would have moved out of community banks into the handful of banks designated as systematically essential (too big to fail) that the government DOES guarantee will stay afloat. That would have pretty much ended every small and medium-sized bank in the country.
 

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All of this activity occurred under a blanket of decreased regulation. Brought about by our buddies in Congress, after careful lobbying by management of SVB. And codified by Trump's signature. Not that it is a red/blue issue. It is not.
 

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If you give MSNBC credibility. I do not.

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March 13, 2023, 7:24 PM EDT
By James Downie, MSNBC Opinion Editor
from cited link above and it get less credibility.

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If you give MSNBC credibility. I do not.

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from cited link above and it get less credibility.

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Though opinion, the facts stated in the article stand on their own merits. And there are plenty of other cases of bank deregulation that have proven the main thrust. Politicians are in the pocket of industry.

Elimination of the Glass Steagall act comes to mind. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/03/071603.asp

As well as the S&L crisis in 1982 due to deregulation. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/garn-st-germain-depository-institutions-act.asp
 
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