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I am not needing to ship one but the question just came to me. If I had to ship a gun to a non FFL person, could I ship it without a firing pin and send the pin seperately? You would be shipping a non functioning weapon as parts and the second package would just be parts. So, can you send any weapon this way?

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Ditto

+1 to above. Generally, the part of a gun that has the serial number stanped on it is the "firearm" for federal law purposes. There's no requirement that it be a working and functional firearm. Now if you weld the breech closed and cut the frame with a torch and saw through the chamber with a hacksaw, then maybe you have made it a non-firearm, but certainly just removing the firing pin won't do it.

P.S. To discourage theft of working firearms, and to keep my guns from being intercepted in transit and traded on the black market where they may one day be used in a crime, I normally ship the receiver / frame with an FFL dealer and then just mail the other parts seperately, on my own. That way unless the criminals intercept BOTH packages and re-assemble the weapon, they only steal a bunch of various parts that are worthless to them.
 

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I was informed, by the nice people at Hi-Point, that I can ship firearms without any special license or paperwork as an individual to another individual, or any of the various types of FFL holders.

If I had an FFL or C&R license, apparently, there are considerations.

They also said not to state the contents of the package to be a pistol, rifle or whatever, but simply call it "machined parts" or something similar. I chose to call it a "paper punch"... The primary reason for that was to prevent UPS for insisting on next-day delivery or giving the USPS people the vapors!

Doug at Bullseye gave me essentially the same info. He said two non-licensed individuals can ship firearms to each other, but an FFL holder can only ship to another FFL. Strange...

:screwy:
 

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Macktee said:
I was informed, by the nice people at Hi-Point, that I can ship firearms without any special license or paperwork as an individual to another individual, or any of the various types of FFL holders.

If I had an FFL or C&R license, apparently, there are considerations.

They also said not to state the contents of the package to be a pistol, rifle or whatever, but simply call it "machined parts" or something similar. I chose to call it a "paper punch"... The primary reason for that was to prevent UPS for insisting on next-day delivery or giving the USPS people the vapors!

Doug at Bullseye gave me essentially the same info. He said two non-licensed individuals can ship firearms to each other, but an FFL holder can only ship to another FFL. Strange...

:screwy:
I also heard something similar to this from a buddy of mine. He stated that an individual could ship a firearm in the mail to him or herself without going threw a FFL. The only requirement was the name of the sender and reciver was the same. :shock:
 

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ptsmith24 said:
If it goes across state lines or is shipped in state, it must go through a FFL.
Nope. You can ship long guns to yourself. You can even ship it to someone else if they are temporarily holding it for you (the owner of the house you're staying at on a hunting trip, for example).

(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]

A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? [Back]

Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
 

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ptsmith24 said:
budder said:
ptsmith24 said:
Oh, ok. But, it better go to yourself and not just be addressed that way for a sale...That would probably create all kinda trouble.
Oh, definitely. What those guys at Hi-Point told Macktee could get someone in a lot of trouble.
Probably both with the ATF and for mail fraud.
I do believe it's now the BATF. Make's it more offical sounding I guess :roll: .
 

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ls1ssdavid said:
ptsmith24 said:
budder said:
ptsmith24 said:
Oh, ok. But, it better go to yourself and not just be addressed that way for a sale...That would probably create all kinda trouble.
Oh, definitely. What those guys at Hi-Point told Macktee could get someone in a lot of trouble.
Probably both with the ATF and for mail fraud.
I do believe it's now the BATF. Make's it more offical sounding I guess :roll: .
Yea, BATFE, I think. I guess for now, people still know what ATF is. I guess the E was added for explosives and the B for bureau so that you can just say it as one word, or some crap.
 
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