VCDL Alert: *********************************************** 9. Member describes incident requiring him to draw his gun *********************************************** Josh Knight sent me this email: -- On Feb. 7, 2007 I was at work. It was around 11:30 a.m. and I had to go to my truck for something. Now where I work is in a shopping center that contains a Christian school, barber shop, personal trainer, thrift store, mission, Dollar General, and a restaurant. While walking to my truck I noticed the owner of the barber shop and another barber standing outside next to their vehicle. I continued walking to my truck when another vehicle came into the parking lot like a mad man. This made me take notice since he almost hit my truck as he came into the parking lot. As I watched him get out of his Ford Expedition I heard the sound of the slide of a pistol being racked. Without any hesitation I reached for my sidearm, drew it out of the holster and had it pointed at the guy that had his pistol pointed at one of the barbers. I yelled for him to drop his gun,to put it down. He lowered his weapon and started walking towards me. [!!! - this shows the total unpredictability of such encounters in the real world. He's now walking towards you with his gun aimed down, but still in his hand! The shoot/don't shoot scenario is now leaning strongly towards 'shoot.' - PVC] I kept yelling for him to drop his weapon and about the same time the owner of the barber shop came out and got between me and the other guy, shoved him into his vehicle and made him leave. [How is THAT for stupid?!? - PVC] A few minutes later three police cars came screaming into the parking lot. As I came back out to my truck to load up so I could leave, the victim [the barber, not the barber shop owner -- PVC] was telling his side of the story to an officer. All I hear is "If it wasn't for that man right there pulling out his gun I would have been shot." A second officer asked if I had a weapon in my truck and I told him yes. He kept walking to his car and didn't seem to concerned with me. After loading my truck and freeing up my hands I turned around to yet another officer and he asked if I had a weapon. I told him, "Yes." He asked, "Where is it?" I told him it is holstered on my hip and I told him I am getting out my information. I handed him my DL, VA CCW, and my NH CCW. I told him what happened from my side and I told him I didn't have time to think I just reacted on the sound of the slide being racked. I told him I don't know if I had made the right decision in getting involved. He told me that he is in the patrol division and not the homicide division. So, yes, I made the right decision and saved a guy from getting shot. He asked which store I worked in and I pointed it out. He told me to go back inside since it is so cold outside and he will be back with me in a minute. A few minutes later he returned handing me back all my information. Told me thanks and to have a good day. We left and went on our job. When we got back that afternoon the lead investigating officer had left me his card because he didn't get a chance to talk to me. So I called and left him a message that afternoon. Friday Feb. 9,2007 the officer called me back to hear what I had to say. He also told me that I did the right thing and that is the reason for people having a CCW. He also said that what happened to me is a pretty rare situation. So the long and short of this story that you are probably going to have a hard time making heads and tails out of is.......A citizen with a CCW was there as it went down and saved somebody from getting shot. The best part is that the VBPD was very understanding, made me feel good that I did what I had to do that day! To view the incident report: http://tinyurl.com/yuvhg9 Josh Virginia Beach, VA -- After emailing Josh about clarifications to the above story (I was wondering why that barber would push a man with a gun into a vehicle and then somehow make him leave - all without getting shot), I got the following additional information: -- My story is hard to explain I guess! So here we go...Andre is the barber and the victim. The suspect left the barber shop after an argument and came back with the gun. Mickey is the shop owner who shoved the suspect back into his vehicle for the 2nd time to get him to leave. Mickey is the one that stepped between suspect and I, directly into the line of fire. The entire thing as I found out later was over this....Andre asking the suspect, "What part of NY are you from?" The suspect told him what part he was from and Andre said, "only punks and faggots come from that part of NY." The scuffle was on from there and Mickey shoved the suspect out the door and into his car and told him he would handle it! So the suspect left and came back to prove a point! Scary after it had the few minutes to set it! Just goes to show you that no matter where you are bad things can happen! Now more than ever I will have my sidearm holstered to my hip! Josh -- And for me this story emphasizes that things are not always as they appear! That's why one has to be extremely careful before helping an unknown third-party who is being attacked as the person being attacked might be the perp and not the victim at that point. In this case, with a man racking the slide (Hollywood style) on a handgun and pointing it at an unarmed person, it was more cut-and-dry from Josh's point of view who the bad guy was.