Searching for That Unicorn Gun Belt

Discussion in 'Holsters / Method of Carry' started by Ga_Regul8r, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. Ga_Regul8r

    Ga_Regul8r Member

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    I need your help. I'm searching for the unicorn of gun belts.
    1) 1.5" wide gun belt that doesn't look like a gun belt. Material doesn't matter, as long as it's sturdy.
    2) It can be worn with jeans in a casual office environment with a tucked shirt when not carrying, and look like it belongs with jeans.
    3) No velcro
    4) If it has a buckle, it cannot interfere with an appendix rig similar to a Trex Arms Sidecar, or protrude like I've got a hernia from Hell.
    5) Alternative to that is being able to rotate the belt so the buckle is around 10 o'clock (past the first belt loop) without having to remove and re-thread the belt through the loops.

    Has anyone seen this unicorn?
     
  2. dam294

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  3. Archangel

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    This. I have bought multiple belts from Al. Every one of them is superb.
     
  4. Suburbbus

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    Another vote for A&G. Had one for a couple of years now. As good today as the day I bought it.
     
  5. rabbivj

    rabbivj My Name is Inigo Montoya

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  6. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    My experience with appendix carry using a leather gun belt with a buckle that uses holes for adjustment is not and will never be a ideal belt to wear for appendix carry. That type of belt does not give the wearer enough range of minute adjustment needed to size the belt to the perfect tension for all day comfortable appendix carry. I have 3 of A&G's leather belts and they are great belts, but I rarely use them for AIWB.

    @Ga_Regul8r Have you ever tried a Aries Aegis belt? I never thought they looked much like a gun belt, but YMMV. The buckle is a little large, so you may think it's too big for your preference. It adjusts as easy as any belt I've used and is very sturdy (Almost too sturdy).

    Mean Gene Leather now makes a leather belt with the Aegis Buckle, which I think totally does not look like a gun belt......but again YMMV.

    Have you seen the Boxer Tactical Apogee Belt. It is a ratchet style buckle, but may be too big or look the wrong way for you.

    Kore Essentials is another ratchet style that can come across as a non-gun belt, but I know nothing about the quality.

    NexBelt is another maker of the ratchet style that came out Shot Show 2017. They have a ton of different colors, buckles and nylon or leather.

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZ52f47pOI[/ame]
     
  7. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    If you try to find one or even think you have one made from real unicorn hide you shall have no more strength or potency. But if a good leather one is what you want, go with one that shall improve those things in your life.

    Nemo

    http://www.bullhidebelts.com/
     
  8. Ga_Regul8r

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    I have a couple of belts from Al. They are great for strong side carry, but won't work with an appendix rig like the Sidecar. I can't roll the belt far enough around to the support side to get the buckle out of the way. It won't go past the belt loop.

    Rabbi, will the Kore buckle pass through a belt loop? I've seen the belt's video and it looks intriguing. Will a holster belt clip fit over both layers of belt?

    Thanks for the links, TMoore. I'll check them out. You've been carrying appendix for what, 8 years now? BTW, the old SA Champion is still running like a champ.
     
  9. dam294

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    I wonder if your holster isn't a bigger problem than your belt if you're appendix carrying. Most appendix rigs don't position the weapon just above your junk but more between 10 & 2 o'clock and are single clip (attachment point). The pictures shown on the trex-arms site are just plain scary to me. The link provided by Rabbi is interesting but I wonder how long the "track thingy" would hold up.
     
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  10. martin_j001

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    Some of these are what I'd point to as well. For appendix carry, many say that they prefer a belt that is a little less stiff and allows a touch of flex for making sitting more comfortable. I have personally tried an Ares Aegis Enhanced, and while not for appendix carry, it was very stiff and my personally feeling was that the buckle was on the large side (if you decide to try one, I'd stick with the non-enhanced version). Volund Gearworks comes up often as well. http://store.volundgearworks.com/

    Belts made of biothane are now becoming popular too--definitely don't look like gun belts. Several options there.

    If you're wanting to do some reading, Pistol Forum has an extensive thread on appendix carry, which I'm sure has a great deal of belt discussion within. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?120-AIWB-(Appendix-Carry)
     
  11. rabbivj

    rabbivj My Name is Inigo Montoya

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    depending on your belt loop size i would probably say yes. and also depending on your clip i would also say yes...
     
  12. tmoore912

    tmoore912 Just a Man

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    Totally agree with martin_j001. Biggest problem for the OP is that he wants a gun belt to look like a dress belt when not carrying a gun. The belts that are a little less stiff certainly do work better for appendix carry in my experience.

    I just picked up a Mastermind Tactics low-profile Slim EDC belt for appendix, and it is working out very well. It doesn't look all that great uncovered though and has Velcro. It works better than my Ares Aegis belt.
     
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  14. Ga_Regul8r

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    tmoore912, you're right. That's why I'm searching for the unicorn. I carry to work, lock it up in the car, and go in. I wear jeans, but also a tucked in polo. After work, I holster up and untuck the shirt if I have to run errands. This is why I would like the buckle to pass through the loops, so I can just slide it around and put the holster on without the buckle poking out. Weekends are easier, just put the buckle at 10 o'clock and go about my day.
     
  15. martin_j001

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    Unfortunately, you may not find what you're looking for, but that will depend on just how big the belt loops are on your specific pants. The option you may be left with is looking at a slimmer belt altogether--a 1.25" belt that therefore has a slightly slimmer buckle may allow for this. I do not think the rings on my Wilderness Frequent Flyer belt will go through the loops on any pants I own, and I don't think the Aegis buckle on the Ares Aegis Enhanced would either... Volund makes a "slim" version, IIRC, that I believe used a smaller buckle that may work, but that may not qualify as not looking like a gun belt either.

    These Biothane belts by First Spear may work, even at 1.5" as the buckle looks rather slim. http://www.first-spear.com/product.php?productid=17588&cat=284&page=1

    The Indestructablet by Daltech comes in 1.5" and 1.25" options. https://www.daltechforce.com/collections/superbio-indestructibelt

    The Superbelt comes in options down to 1", but I haven't seen any reports of folks using a 1" belt for carrying with, so that may or may not offer enough support. https://thesuperbelt.com/
     
  16. Don27

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    In a pinch I can work my t-rex holster clips onto my aegis belt with the buckle at 12 o'clock. But there have been a couple of times where I initially put the buckle on at 10 o'clock, took off my jacket and needed to move my belt. So I took my belt off and re looped it through. Took all of 10 seconds.

    Not pushing brands just saying what works for me.
     
  17. rabbivj

    rabbivj My Name is Inigo Montoya

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    I actually do have a daltech force belt and it works well as a gun belt but not for appendix tbh...also the buckle is waay too big to move thru loops...
     
  18. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    No personal idea on the quality but I have heard good things about them, and they seem good quality. They are right nice too. This is a spam ad email I get from them. I have deleted all the pretty graphics.

    They may do some advertising here also. Not sure if they do or not.

    Nemo

     
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  19. Ga_Regul8r

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    Lots of great input and links. Thanks everyone. I really do appreciate all your help.

    I may just have to resort to relooping, using strong side carry for workdays and appendix for off times and weekends, or changing rigs altogether.

    On a related note...

    Anybody old enough to remember when wearing your belt buckle at 10 o'clock was cool? Neither am I, but I used to work with a guy that was that old and did wear it there.
     
  20. rabbivj

    rabbivj My Name is Inigo Montoya

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    so i just ordered and got it today, nexbelt gun belt in the black nylon. and its a very nice belt. Its less wider than the kore trackline belt and it is reinforced but not as well as the kore. retention carrying a jm custom kydex iwb 2 holster made for a g19 with a WML (surefire x300u) and wearing it around the house it holds up VERY WELL. I did trim it to my pant size and the ratchet system works well. There are 2 allen screws you have to undo and trim the belt to size and then screw them back in. Im gonna wear it some more and see how it holds up in my class with sparrow defense on sunday.
     
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