School Teacher Challenges Gun Ban

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Malum Prohibitum, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    http://www.argusobserver.com/articles/2 ... ews/04.txt

    Oregon has statewide preemption for people with firearms licenses (but not for people without), and, as most of you already know, virtually NOTHING is off limits to carry in Oregon.
     
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  3. budder

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    :censored: ing communists!



    I imagine the suit will go well, considering Oregon's current laws, though I can definitely see a "PROTECT OUR CHILDREN" argument going much fyrther than it should. Any idea which way it'll fall?
     
  4. jgullock

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    Sure, safe like it was for Andrea Lambesis, Mary Alicia Shanks, Mary Snedeker, Derother Denise White, Barry Grunow, etc. etc.
     
  5. Malum Prohibitum

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    http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /709090334

    A second news story.

    This one quotes the preemption law.
    Statute 166.170 on regulating firearms
    "(1) Except as expressly authorized by state statute, the authority to regulate in any matter whatsoever the sale, acquisition, transfer, ownership, possession, storage, transportation or use of firearms or any element relating to firearms and components thereof, including ammunition, is vested solely in the Legislative Assembly.

    "(2) Except as expressly authorized by state statute, no county, city or other municipal corporation or district may enact civil or criminal ordinances, including but not limited to zoning ordinances, to regulate, restrict or prohibit the sale, acquisition, transfer, ownership, possession, storage, transportation or use of firearms or any element relating to firearms and components thereof, including ammunition. Ordinances that are contrary to this subsection are void."
     
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    According to Clayton Cramer, "Even gun control advocates often start to backpedal towards sanity when it comes to a woman being stalked by an ex-husband."
     
  9. Malum Prohibitum

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    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0918/p01s01-uspo.html

    "I have no doubt at all that any time a criminal has gone into a school intending to commit violence they did so knowing nobody was going to be able to stop them," she says. "We've seen what happens when teachers do nothing or can do nothing, and that's not acceptable to me."
     
  10. Malum Prohibitum

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    From the same article.
    Has this ever actually happened? Has the situation EVER been made more dangerous by an armed citizen defending students and faculty from a homicidal maniac? Ever?
     
  11. Thorsen

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    I'd like to see statistics on that as well. I'd be happy just to see anecdotal stories that could be verified.
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

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    Just one.

    It would be a good follow up question for a reporter on his toes.
     
  13. GAGunOwner

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    So ADULTS that have a CLEAN record, who are trusted to teach children, who have at least a 4 year college degree, who have jumped through the hoops of obtaining a CCW permit (going through another background check) are not trustworthy enough to carry a gun? :roll:
     
  14. Marikhal

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    That's correct!

    :p
     
  15. murrybird

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    Atleast she is not giving up, but instead putting up a fight by sueing the school system. Perhaps it will draw national attention and become a movement. One can only hope.
     
  16. Malum Prohibitum

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    Unless they have a badge, in which case all of the retired policeman's / school board chairman's concerns go away.
     
  17. budder

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    Will a CC badge work?
     
  18. cdtracing

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    This might be a fight for her life if her ex were to come after her. Who knows if he is dangerous or not. She is concerned enough to take out a restraining order on him.
     
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    try that one on for size.
     
  20. Malum Prohibitum

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