School property after hours

Discussion in 'Places Off-Limits' started by jreXD9, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. jrm

    jrm Sledgehammer

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    Admittedly unlikely, but I would not say never. Some people said we would never get the public gathering law repealed, either. It was 140 years old when we had its funeral.
    I guess that depends on what you mean by "we." I can only really speak to what GCO does, and it has never taken an all-or-nothing approach. Some years are more successful than others, but I think overall GCO has accomplished great things on an incremental basis.

    If by "we" you include GCO, GCO proposes lots of options every year, some big, some little. Some years it gets a big thing, some years a little thing, and some years a nothing. But every year it does exactly what you suggest.
     
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  2. Hombre

    Hombre PITA

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    ^^ I rest easy knowing what GCO (and jrm) does for us. They are sensible, intelligent, reasonable, steadfast, and do the job for the principle of it, not for the money like some gun rights organizations do. As long as they remain that way, I will always be a member. The best $20 investment any Georgia gun owner can make.

    For proof, compare gun carry laws 15-20 years ago (which were simply awful) to what they are today (which are quite good and still getting better).
     
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  3. HJB

    HJB Active Member

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    Why would I need a disguise ?
     
  4. Phil1979

    Phil1979 Member Georgia Carry

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    Well, I agree on the all or nothing. My idea of getting an enhanced licence, although I didn't mention it here, would involve the concession of some sort of onetime training course or qualification on a live fire range. Surely if we meet them halfway the General Assembly will do the same?

     
  5. Wegahe

    Wegahe NRA Instructor

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    I think the request for getting an enhanced license was either tabled or went no where. the terms for the enhanced included a training requirement that was established by a national nonprofit which included 8 hours of training and 50 rounds down range. The only course that would fit that description is the NRA's basic pistol course. One minor difference between the requirement and the class is the 50 rounds and the minimum NRA requirement is 80 rounds down range.
     
  6. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    You like playing jerk and want to double up on it?

    Nemo
     
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  7. HJB

    HJB Active Member

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    Is that why you wear that goofy disguise in your avatar ?
     
  8. moe mensale

    moe mensale Well-Known Member

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    President Ronald Reagan.
    1 - In 1982 he compromised to raise taxes in return for spending cuts. Taxes got raised. Spending cuts never happened.

    2 - In 1986 he granted amnesty for 3 million illegals in return for employer verification of employee immigration status and a border wall. Amnesty was passed. No employer verification and no wall.

    Halfway usually means no way.
     
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  9. Nemo

    Nemo Man of Myth and Legend

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    No, you get no credit for that cool dog face avatar. I found that here all by myself. But you do get credit for the double up on the jerk part.

    Nemo
     
  10. HJB

    HJB Active Member

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    The pot says to the kettle.....
     
  11. Dawgdoc

    Dawgdoc Well-Known Member

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    That may be the case, but I know in Catoosa County (and I suspect many other counties), they (chief school resource officer and operations manager for the school board) have stated in black and white terms that they will arrest a person carrying a gun and walking into a school building to drop off or pick up their child. This was after the relevant code was cited and explained. Furthermore, the code has such terrible grammar ("when such person carries or picks up a student within a school safety zone" combined into a run on sentence that ends with language referring to carrying in a vehicle) that I think many people would agree with them. I never say that I am "carrying" my son to school; I say that I am dropping him off at school. If the legislators really wanted to make it unambiguously clear that a GWCL holder could possess a gun while physically escorting their child to and from school, they should have made it explicitly clear, and explicitly clarified that it does not require a vehicle to "pick up" or "drop off" a student.

    Instead, we have this mess that allows government officials to interpret the law in a light less favorable to gun rights. I might be able to beat the conviction, but I would still be arrested, have to pay a lawyer, and risk my freedom, my GWCL, my reputation, and possibly my professional license if convicted. Also, I think I would need a really eloquent lawyer to convince a jury or a judge that the law does not prohibit an armed person from walking a kid into a building and then walking back out. I think a large number of people would read that statute and conclude that it is exclusively referring to carrying while dropping off and picking up students from a vehicle even if a careful reading does not support that.
     
  12. Dawgdoc

    Dawgdoc Well-Known Member

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    On a related note, my son is 15 and has a learner's permit. I took him to the mostly deserted high school parking lot early Sunday morning for practice. From an onlooker's perspective, I would understand if someone thought a new driver was either drunk or texting while driving. Even though it was not a public road, I could foresee a Sheriff's deputy who happened to be driving by coming to investigate. If I (while legally armed in the car) was asked to exit the vehicle on school property, how should I proceed? Tell the deputy that I'm armed and cannot legally set foot on the property? Don't tell him I armed and argue the necessity of exiting the vehicle? Exit and assume I have some exception to the school zone law because I was compelled to touch their sacred ground while armed?

    It is a hypothetical scenario so far, but not out of the realm of possibilities.