SB 18 Georgia Public Safety Training Center; any member of security police force; ret

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tmoore912

Discussion Starter · Feb 10, 2017 (Edited)

I didn't see this one in here.

SB 18
Georgia Public Safety Training Center; any member of security police force; retain his/her weapon and badge under certain conditions

Sponsored By
(1) Harper, Tyler 7th(2) Albers, John 56th(3) Dugan, Mike 30th
(4) Hill, Hunter 6th(5) Anderson, Lee 24th(6) Williams, Michael 27th

Committees
SC: Public Safety HC:

First Reader Summary

A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend Code Section 35-5-7 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to security police force within the Georgia Public Safety Training Center, so as to provide that any member of the security police force, upon his or her retirement or upon leaving such employment as a result of a disability arising in the line of duty, shall be entitled to retain his or her weapon and badge under certain conditions; to provide for rules and regulations; to provide for related matters; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes.

Status History
Feb/08/2017 - Senate Read Second Time
Feb/07/2017 - Senate Committee Favorably Reported By Substitute
Jan/23/2017 - Senate Read and Referred
Jan/12/2017 - Senate Hopper

Adds people to 16-11-130

(5) Person who is a citizen of this state and:
54 (A) Has retired with at least ten years of aggregate service as a law enforcement officer
55 with powers of arrest under the laws of any state of the United States or of the United
56 States;
57 (B) Separated from service in good standing, as determined by criteria established by
58 the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, from employment with his
59 or her most recent law enforcement agency; and
60 (C) Possesses on his or her person an identification card for retired law enforcement
61 officers as issued by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council;
62 provided, however, that such person meets the standards for the issuance of such card
LC 41 0976S
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63 as provided for by the council, including, but not limited to, maintenance of
64 qualification in firearms training.

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mountainpass

· #2 · Feb 10, 2017

Here is how the Amendment vote that would have put lawmakers on 130 turned out.

@StefanTurk 37m37 minutes ago
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Here is how the Senate voted on whether legislators can carry guns everywhere. It failed 23-26 #gapol

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tmoore912

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 10, 2017

Senate tried to amend this bill this morning on the floor. The amendment would have added Legislators to the exempt list of 16-11-130. It failed by a vote of 23 to 26. Ruger was talking about it in the SB 80 thread.

Kristina Torres
‏@The_KristinaT

So it appears the Senate is debating an amendment that could give current/former state lawmakers the ability to carry a gun anywhere? #gapol

Kristina Torres
‏@The_KristinaT

Kristina Torres Retweeted Kristina Torres
The amendment fails 23-26. But it would have allowed them to carry weapons in places previously banned, like the state Capitol. #gapol

UtiPossidetis

· #4 · Feb 10, 2017

Wait. My idiot State Senator voted not to give himself additional privileges? Wow.

mountainpass

· #5 · Feb 10, 2017

UtiPossidetis said:
Wait. My idiot State Senator voted not to give himself additional privileges? Wow.

Call and thank him.

Edit: Also mention that if anyone should be on 130 it's licensees.

mountainpass

· #6 · Feb 10, 2017

Sen Heath's Phone: (404) 656-3943

I just left a nice message saying I was disappointed with his amendment.
I pointed out that if anyone should be on that list it's Weapons License Holders.

UtiPossidetis

· #7 · Feb 10, 2017

mountainpass said:
Call and thank him.

Edit: Also mention that if anyone should be on 130 it's licensees.

My State Senator has 0 time for actual constituents. Have tried repeatedly to meet with him. Even had an appointment and was told by his receptionist I didn't - showed her the email from him confirming the date and time and she still tried to somehow make it my fault. He's bought and paid for my lobbyists (he's never held a real job in his life). On the other hand, my state representative is a standup guy.

DonT

· #8 · Feb 10, 2017 (Edited)

WSB radio just had a Vincent Fort soundbite, that he was relieved that he wouldn't have to be around his fellow senators packing, in the capitol.

Rugerer

· #9 · Feb 10, 2017

DonT said:
WSB radio just had a Vincent Fort soundbite, that he was relieved that he wouldn't have to be around former senators packing, in the capitol.

And he was the one who threatened to amend some gun bill last year to allow carry in the Capitol.

GCO was tweeting all kinds of support for that.

Malum Prohibitum

· #10 · Feb 10, 2017

DonT said:
WSB radio just had a Vincent Fort soundbite, that he was relieved that he wouldn't have to be around his fellow senators packing, in the capitol.

Well, he voted no, and that was the correct vote in this case.

Malum Prohibitum

· #11 · Feb 10, 2017

My Senator (Brass) voted no, but I am very surprised and disappointed at some of the yes votes.

A. McClure

· #12 · Feb 10, 2017

I've already sent a nice thank you to my Senator (Gooch) for voting no, and a disappointed message to another who voted yes.

tmoore912

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 10, 2017 (Edited)

I sent a notice to my Senator Ben Watson that I was extremely disappointed in his Yes vote. And included a photo of the voting board in the Senate chambers that shows his Yes vote.

mountainpass

· #14 · Feb 12, 2017

Posted on ODT by Barbwire, his email exchange with Sen Dugan:

UPDATE-------This is what I wrote him about the bill...

"Sir, it has come to my attention that you voted YES on "SB18" allowing YOU to legally carry your gun anywhere in GA WITHOUT a license, yet I have to have a license and may not carry everywhere in GA.
> You must think that your life is worth much more than mine or my loved ones.
> If this comes up again, and you vote for it without putting license holders on it, I will vote against you and ask others to do the same.
> Thank you"

And his response to me....

"Fair enough David. SB 18 allows retired law enforcement officials to retain their side arm after they leave public service. Two others tried to add an amendment to the bill that would have added the provision you mentioned. I honestly was torn on the vote for the perception of the exact things you mentioned. If it does come up in this form again I can assure you that my vote won't be the same.

I appreciate your writing to me with your position in this failed amendment to what is otherwise a very good bill."

Mike

mountainpass

· #15 · Feb 12, 2017

For those new here they tried this same thing in 2011 during the push for HB102 and it passed, here is the amendment: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/113421.pdf

Back then the amendment passed. There was much discussion about halfway through this thread: http://www.georgiapacking.org/forum/showthread.php?t=223318&highlight=ginn+voted

Malum Prohibitum

· #16 · Feb 12, 2017

Malum Prohibitum said:
My Senator (Brass) voted no, but I am very surprised and disappointed at some of the yes votes.

I met my Senator in person, and he says he took heat from some of the other Senators for voting no.

It seems like a no brainer what the right thing to do was in this situation.

Phil1979

· #17 · Feb 13, 2017

"What's good for me is not good for thee."

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