SA: Has anyone else done this?

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by VolGrad, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    We had a thread going recently about SA. I decided in a time of crisis I would likely underestimate all distances from point A to point B, thus affecting my POA and overall effectiveness.

    I decided to pace off distances between the most likely defensive positions around my home and points of entry, exit, etc. I have not done the inside yet. However, I mentioned I tuck a Glock 26 in my pockets when I take the dog out for last call at night. I paced off the distance from the garage entry point (I always use this door) to several key points around the yard, driveway, outbuilding, etc. I know it is approximately 25 yards to each major point. From there I can better judge points in between, thinking in fractions to facilitate calculations.

    Has anyone else done this? Will anyone else do it now?
     

  2. AeroShooter

    AeroShooter Active Member

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    I'm having difficulty understanding the relavance of doing this. Unless you're in a low-visibility situation.

    When I was in the service, I had a number of pace counts (steps to cover 100m distance) for a variety of conditions... my land nav instructor and fellow students didn't quite understand why I had a 'running' pace count. It seemed obvious to me that one may find oneself in an escape/evasion senario and it would be nice to know what distance one has covered.
     
  3. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    The reason I stated earlier - I have a concern that in a SHTF situation "things will appear closer than they are". I might think my storage barn is about 15 yards, when in fact it is 25 yards. I might need to adjust aim slightly, given the opportunity to aim that is. And, yes I would envision there would low light visibility. I have motion lights but they could be disabled by someone wishing to do me and my family harm.

    From your response it would seem you have thought about this too, and it seemed to make sense to you at the time.

    So am I a moron? I thought this was a good idea.
     
  4. AV8R

    AV8R Banned

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    While I've not paced off distances, I've identified every likely hiding place around my house and surrounding properties. Thinking like the enemy reveals a lot.

    It is also worthwhile to consider defensive positions inside your house.
     
  5. ptsmith24

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  6. AV8R

    AV8R Banned

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    I like the fact that you are anticipating BAR throwing off your gun-fu. I would just add that you can practice overcoming this. Also, drill into your mind, breathe, front sight, press the trigger, front sight.
     
  7. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

    Agreed. I really think pacing things off here would be beneficial. I have often done room clearing drills in my head. Thinking how would best be achieved give where our MBR is in relation to my daughter's BR, points of entry/exit, etc. I have also thought about how best to move about the house in zero light. Here it would be beneficial to have the pace counts and not give my position away to any BGs by shining a flashlight. I only want them to see one flash - and that's muzzle flash.
     
  8. Macktee

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    And I thought I was paranoid......

    We used to do that when I was wearing fatigues, but I haven't since then. Actually, might not be a bad idea..... :shoot: in some circumstances.

    However, at my house, I'm only concerned about someone actually entering and the inside distances are short enough I don't think I need to delineate firing zones and distances.

    8)
     
  9. AeroShooter

    AeroShooter Active Member

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    Sure, like I said, when I was in the service (Army) knowing & estimating distance was important in knowing how to adjust one's aim. But that was over 100's of meters. There is value knowing the limits of one's accuracy with a particular weapon and being able to estimate that distance for a shoot/no-shoot decision.

    I don't think I'm qualified to answer that! :)

    I can't think of a good argument against it. Roll the way you want to roll.
     
  10. M249

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  11. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    Me too. I've finally gotten around to building a FAK and found a steal right here: stupidly long link here

    For $2.95 and free shipping (theoretically, the sample is free and the shipping is $2.95, but I guess eBay wants their cut), you can get as many 25g Quikclot samples as you want. I just got 4.
     
  12. wsweeks2

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    I did this while educating the soon-to-be Mrs. on why I think the way I do. She had a bunch of good questions which made me realize that sometimes it just sucks being left-handed the way our house is laid out.
     
  13. AV8R

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    Ok, so why are they free? Is this for real?
     
  14. budder

    budder Moderator Staff Member

    I have no idea. He probably found a way to get the samples for less than he's selling them for. Shipping is only 41 cents