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This from the AJC:

S.C. Considers Allowing Guns on Campuses
By SEANNA ADCOX
Associated Press Writer

COLUMBIA, S.C. — To prevent school shootings, some South Carolina legislators want more guns on campuses.

A House subcommittee approved a measure Wednesday that would allow concealed weapon permit holders to carry guns onto public school campuses, from elementary schools to universities. Supporters say having trained and armed gun owners in schools could prevent massacres like the April 16 shootings at Virginia Tech, where one armed student killed 32 people.

Only Utah currently has a law allowing concealed weapons on campuses.

"We're not talking about kids. We're talking about responsible adults," said Republican Rep. Jeff Duncan, who sponsored the bill.

Opponents fear more guns will mean more accidental shootings, and questioned if colleges were an appropriate environment for guns.

"I'm concerned about more guns around younger people combined with emotions and sometimes alcohol," said Rep. Doug Jennings, a Democrat. "I don't think it's a proper reaction to the Virginia Tech tragedy."

The bill heads to the House Judiciary Committee, though it is not expected to pass the Legislature before its scheduled adjournment for the year next month. Gov. Mark Sanford, a Republican, said he hadn't yet thought about the bill.

Nationwide, 37 states ban weapons at schools. Of those, 16 explicitly prohibit weapons on college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

College police chiefs across South Carolina said allowing guns on campuses would make it difficult to pinpoint a criminal. "Today, if we respond, we know the person with the weapon is the bad guy," said Ernest Ellis, the law enforcement director at the University of South Carolina.

To obtain a concealed weapon permit in South Carolina, a resident must be at least 21, undergo at least eight hours of handgun training, and pass criminal and mental background checks.
 

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"I'm concerned about more guns around younger people combined with emotions and sometimes alcohol,"
WTF, guns around younger people ok it's for the kids. And sometimes alcohol, how many here go to their kids school drunk? I don't.

OK I forgot about college and RAMM :(
 

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That's awsome news...Looks like some folks are actually gaining commen sense, which isn't so commen at all... :D Hopefully other states will listen up and wake up!

When was the last time a school shooting took place in Moab??? I don't think there's been one, so there must be something to this theory that works!
 

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What i think the problem is, it is the media is writing the articles....there needs to be something written by someone who actually understands whats going on here....they need to realize that most people are idiots and don't know what the hell is going on.

it will allow Firearms License holders to pick their child up, teachers to carry, and STUDENTS who are over 21 and pass all requirements.....and i honestly doubt that the students are legal to carry are the ones that are out raising hell and fighting......i speak from experience im 21 and will have my Bachelors Degree completed in 6 weeks Whoo Hooo!!!
 

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Doc Holliday said:
luke0927 said:
i honestly doubt that the students are legal to carry are the ones that are out raising hell and fighting.....
Thats not what Sarah Brady would have you believe.
:puke: on Sarah Brady and the Brady bunch.....

Happy to see these folks actually make a positive move instead of just yappin about!
 

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University of South Carolina professor Patrick Nolan knows exactly what he would want to do if a gun-wielding assailant burst into his classroom: He'd blow him away.
"I would have no hesitation," said Nolan, who holds a state-issued concealed weapons permit and has taught sociology at USC for 15 years. "I would tell my students to get down, and I would stop the attack."
http://web.charleston.net/news/2007/may ... ic_debate/
 

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Columbia College Police Chief Howard Cook said that allowing civilians to carry weapons on campus could lead to more violence, not less.
:roll:
 

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Cook, president of the S.C. Campus Law Enforcement Association, said many concealed weapons permit holders lack training in high-stress environments and that their experience is limited to "shooting at paper targets in optimal conditions," he said.
Oh, let us bow down at your feet, of great LEO :bowdown:
 

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Robert Butler, vice president of Lexington-based GrassRoots Gun Rights, also testified Wednesday. He said concealed weapons permit holders are the good guys and that the mere possibility that they could be sitting in classrooms and walking across campuses is enough to deter most would-be murderers. "If we truly loved our children, we would not create safe havens for the killers of our children," Butler said.
Butler said law-abiding gun owners have helped stop or minimize violence in at least three school-related incidents over the years.

Nolan, who practices marksmanship in simulated "real-world" environments and teaches training courses for people applying for concealed weapons permits, said most permit holders are not casual gun owners. They practice and have accepted a responsibility.

"When you decide to carry a weapon, you have to ask yourself, 'Am I prepared to use it?' "
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
Columbia College Police Chief Howard Cook said that allowing civilians to carry weapons on campus could lead to more violence, not less.
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Isn't this always the words of the Anti's....im ready for some of them to shut and show me the facts.....ohh wait they cant cause their are none to suppport their claims.
 

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I guess by using the same logic allowing LEOs to carry weapons will lead to more violence! Here is the answer! Disarm LEOs!!!

God, I love logic! :D
 

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Foul said:
I guess by using the same logic allowing LEOs to carry weapons will lead to more violence! Here is the answer! Disarm LEOs!!!

God, I love logic! :D
You only have to worry if you are a 91 year old female in Atlanta...Other than that, you are safe around well armed LEO's.... LOL...
 

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While this bill is indeed a fine idea, I'd hate to see a SC repeat of the recent 89/43 fiasco here. SC is one Senate vote away from passing reciprocity with all other states, which should include most of us here in GA! It'd be better to get that passed than call attention to the debate and end up stalling things out.
 

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Only Utah currently has a law allowing concealed weapons on campuses.
I though there were more than this? It is legal in Alabama to carry in ALL schools. I think there are a few more( I think in some may issue states at least) that allow carry on K-12.
 

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Malum Prohibitum said:
http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/about/prohibited-places/?page_id=3&data_file=http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/map%20data/schools.xml&title=Schools
RI should be all green even state parks. I know the DEM has a rule prohibiting carry of a weapon in a state park but I do not believe it legal as our legislature has pre-empted all things related to guns.

If you like I can provide all references to state law that show this.
 
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