What's with all the yellow tie-wraps on those weapons? :screwy:
I agree, to a point. While I see zero issue with a sidearm, seems like a "assult rifle" would just fuel the bed wetters.Redbull72 said:Saw this video clip on CNN. Never heard of these guys (RTC: Restore the Constitution).
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/09/19/dnt.carry.guns.openly.wxia
I see the point just not sure that carrying those ARs isn't more intimidating than inviting. The idea is to bring folks over for a talk, and not to fuel those who attach the word "Nut" to gun. Even the protester admits to feeling uncomfortable, although he asserts that he has been conditioned to feel this way.
Someone else's incontinence is their problem, not mine.robfromga said:I agree, to a point. While I see zero issue with a sidearm, seems like a "assult rifle" would just fuel the bed wetters.
The "rules" for their "rally" included that all rifles etc be unloaded with chamber flags or similar inserted... I checked out their "blog" site and found that last night, as well as a political candidate who claimed to be a "Constitutionalist" though he apparently doesn't know when it was ratified.CoffeeMate said:What's with all the yellow tie-wraps on those weapons? :screwy:
you missed my pointCoffeeMate said:Someone else's incontinence is their problem, not mine.robfromga said:I agree, to a point. While I see zero issue with a sidearm, seems like a "assult rifle" would just fuel the bed wetters.
I do not believe I did. Perhaps you missed mine? :lol:robfromga said:you missed my pointCoffeeMate said:Someone else's incontinence is their problem, not mine.robfromga said:I agree, to a point. While I see zero issue with a sidearm, seems like a "assult rifle" would just fuel the bed wetters.
How is that legal under State pre-emption?jlcnuke said:The "rules" for their "rally" included that all rifles etc be unloaded with chamber flags or similar inserted... I checked out their "blog" site and found that last night...CoffeeMate said:What's with all the yellow tie-wraps on those weapons? :screwy:
And it's still another thing to feel that your point can only be made with ARs and similar weapons.Why: 1) To practice gathering together while armed 2) to show friends, foes, and neutrals alike what can be done and to what extent Second Amendment rights can be used and to know where they stand 3) To bring attention to the fact that the Constitution is being violated in multiple ways. It’s one thing to debate online; it’s quite another to speak to the public or the media while carrying a weapon.
Is the Second Amendment not part of the Constitution?Redbull72 said:If this group is trying to make a point then why not be a little more clear as to the full intent. Why make me read between the lines if your point it to demonstrate that what you are hinting at isn't illegal.
It wasn't required by the state or town, it was the groups rules for their rally, though I hesitate to use that term since I'm not sure what they were rallying against even after reading all the comments on the article (other than some unspecified offense against the Constitution).CoffeeMate said:How is that legal under State pre-emption?jlcnuke said:The "rules" for their "rally" included that all rifles etc be unloaded with chamber flags or similar inserted... I checked out their "blog" site and found that last night...CoffeeMate said:What's with all the yellow tie-wraps on those weapons? :screwy:
Ah, understood.jlcnuke said:It wasn't required by the state or town, it was the groups rules for their rally, though I hesitate to use that term since I'm not sure what they were rallying against even after reading all the comments on the article (other than some unspecified offense against the Constitution).CoffeeMate said:How is that legal under State pre-emption?jlcnuke said:The "rules" for their "rally" included that all rifles etc be unloaded with chamber flags or similar inserted... I checked out their "blog" site and found that last night...CoffeeMate said:What's with all the yellow tie-wraps on those weapons? :screwy:
Its fairly simple. They feel as if the Constitution is not being followed by our government and they are dissatisfied with this.jlcnuke said:though I hesitate to use that term since I'm not sure what they were rallying against even after reading all the comments on the article (other than some unspecified offense against the Constitution).
Their "rally" signs just said "restore the Constitution" and the interaction they had with the public was handing out pocket versions of the Constitution. That doesn't tell the people what things they disagree with, how to go about changing those things or what they're doing to make a change. A couple of the guys state things they think are violations of the Constitution but don't explain their views when given the opportunity. Those who disagree aren't going to be convinced by that. Those who agree don't see what the group is doing to change anything and therefore are likely to care about the group. Those who are indifferent were given no compelling reason to care.EJR914 said:Its fairly simple. They feel as if the Constitution is not being followed by our government and they are dissatisfied with this.jlcnuke said:though I hesitate to use that term since I'm not sure what they were rallying against even after reading all the comments on the article (other than some unspecified offense against the Constitution).
Watch the video: http://www.11alive.com/video/default.as ... 0819269001
You'll see one thing that Daniel states is that the licensing, a tax for a constitutional right, is unconstitutional on its face. That's one of the problems that he mentions.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to carry rifles, or to demonstrate that right, I'm saying that you catch more flies with honey. Like bringing the right tool for the job. You can drive a screw with a hammer but it does a lot of damage. In polling some of my non gun toting friends they felt (as I do) that they would be less inclined to approach or be approached by a person carrying an AR style rifle than a side arm. Call it conditioning driven by media hype if you want and saying "it's my right" doesn't make it the best way to communicate with those whom you might want to "recondition".CoffeeMate said:Is the Second Amendment not part of the Constitution?Redbull72 said:If this group is trying to make a point then why not be a little more clear as to the full intent. Why make me read between the lines if your point it to demonstrate that what you are hinting at isn't illegal.
Is "...shall not be infringed..." not at the heart of the Second Amendment?
If nothing else they've demonstrated that in order to exercise the First Amendment, specifically to assemble peacably and in public, one must voluntarily agree to infringements on the Second Amendment. This is made evident by the infringement represented by those yellow tie wraps.
Further, this infringement is not only in violation of the Bill of Rights, but it is also in violation of Georgia State Law (OCGA 16-11-173).
I agree with this. Their choices in weapons shouldnt take away from their rally or what they're trying to say to the general public. People that have these rallies will possibly help others see more clearly when it comes to whats happening in this country. That the people we vote for have and will be the same people that will and has voted on measures that would and could infringe on our rights as americans. The sheep have always been comfortable following the rules that to government sets for them without any argument as to how it affects them.Malum Prohibitum said:Seemed to be a very favorable news story. I do not think it showed them in a bad light whatsoever.