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ROSEVILLE, Mich. - A Roseville man took to Facebook to insult an officer who gave him a ticket for warming up his car in his own driveway.

"Every person warms up their car," Nick Taylor said. "We live in Michigan!"

Roseville police phones have been lighting up with calls from people who are furious that Taylor was given a ticket for warming up his car.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...him-ticket-for-warming-up-car-in-own-driveway

When you're behind on that quota.

The ridiculous logic and butt hurt feelz in the video is hilarious. He called us a name! Boohoo! :rotfl:
 

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this happened within a 5 minute window. the probability that a cop drove through a residential area, noticed this, and wrote the ticket without the owner noticing within 5 minutes is exceedingly small. that means the cop had to actively be surveilling the victim prior to, for whatever reason. i'd think it was more personal than quota related.

also, the cops give this as an excuse...

Police said the key component of the case is whether the key is in the car. Using a remote starter is OK because the key isn't in the car. If the key is in the car, it's a state and local violation, because somebody could take off in the car.

"You're putting the public at risk," Roseville police Chief James Berlin said. "This is purely a public safety issue."
so, now they are actively punishing people for what other people might do.
 

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Michigan has a law.
The law seems to be an EXACT fit for the circumstances of this incident.
The legislature in Michigan says that it's too risky to leave a running car parked with keys in the ignition, so that anybody could get in and drive away in it (or a kid could get it out of "park" and drive it a short distance before crashing it).

So don't blame the cop.

Blame the state legislature for infringing on people's rights to this extent, and making the wrong choices in the balance between personal liberty and public safety.
 

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And if you call the cop a bad name on social media, don't expect any cop from that department (or the local prosecutor's office) to cut you some slack.
You want to shoot your mouth off? Get ready to play hardball. You still have "your rights" but don't expect any more leniency, grace, or mercy than the law says you have a legal right to.
 

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The chief was very unprofessional in his interview.

Could the owner have the cop charged with trespassing. He did enter he property and look in the car to see keys he could be a peeping tom.
 

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IMNAL

but I believe cops can come onto your property in the interest of public safety...
 

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The feelz from getting called a name "dipcrap" :rotfl2:

Getting that butt hurt? Really?

Children with guns and badges.
 

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So don't blame the cop.

Blame the state legislature for infringing on people's rights to this extent, and making the wrong choices in the balance between personal liberty and public safety.
Either police have discretion, or they do not. If they do, they bear as much of the blame as the legislators. And we all know they do....
 

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it's irrational to believe that any man isn't responsible for his actions, regardless of if he has a badge or not.
 

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Michigan has a law.
The law seems to be an EXACT fit for the circumstances of this incident.
The legislature in Michigan says that it's too risky to leave a running car parked with keys in the ignition, so that anybody could get in and drive away in it (or a kid could get it out of "park" and drive it a short distance before crashing it).

So don't blame the cop.

Blame the state legislature for infringing on people's rights to this extent, and making the wrong choices in the balance between personal liberty and public safety.
A total police state. The MI legislature is to blame for creating this nanny state regulation-and-the cops are jointly to blame for choosing to enforce it. You seem to forget that police officers and their PDs have discretion over which laws they enforce.
 

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it's irrational to believe that any man isn't responsible for his actions, regardless of if he has a badge or not.
Despite my earlier comment that was well said!
 

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Michigan has a law.
The law seems to be an EXACT fit for the circumstances of this incident.
The legislature in Michigan says that it's too risky to leave a running car parked with keys in the ignition, so that anybody could get in and drive away in it (or a kid could get it out of "park" and drive it a short distance before crashing it).

So don't blame the cop.

Blame the state legislature for infringing on people's rights to this extent, and making the wrong choices in the balance between personal liberty and public safety.
That's like saying "don't blame the ss, blame Hitler".
 

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Michigan has a law.
The law seems to be an EXACT fit for the circumstances of this incident.
The legislature in Michigan says that it's too risky to leave a running car parked with keys in the ignition, so that anybody could get in and drive away in it (or a kid could get it out of "park" and drive it a short distance before crashing it).

So don't blame the cop.

Blame the state legislature for infringing on people's rights to this extent, and making the wrong choices in the balance between personal liberty and public safety.
The state legislature is wrong here.

The cop is wrong here.

Ayn Rand was correct.
 

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"You see the disparaging comments he made about my officer?" Berlin said. "Drop dead."
The epitome of professionalism. Strong the butt hurt is with this one.
 

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Just another example of what you do with your stuff on your property is the Governments business.

He's just lucky the cop didn't shoot his dog.
And then body slam him when he came out to morn the dog.
And then charge him with obstruction. And resisting arrest. And felony assault on an officer.
 

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Find a cops house and watch them do the same thing.
 

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Find a cops house and watch them do the same thing.
They're the only ones, that I know of, in this room, that are professional enough to warn their cars up with the keys in the ignition.
 

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They're the only ones, that I know of, in this room, that are professional enough to warn their cars up with the keys in the ignition.
I see them do it every day heating and cooling their vehicle while they visit a convenience store or pick up dry cleaning.
Of course why wouldn't they, they aren't paying for the fuel. We are.
 

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I see them do it every day heating and cooling their vehicle while they visit a convenience store or pick up dry cleaning.
Of course why wouldn't they, they aren't paying for the fuel. We are.
It is not the fuel, its the law against stealing a cop car. No one will risk breaking the law to steal a car. Right? Oh. What's that? It's against the law to steal normal people's cars?
 
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