Response to a no firearms at work policy

Discussion in 'Off-topic' started by USMC - Retired, Dec 29, 2006.

  1. USMC - Retired

    USMC - Retired New Member

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    Folks.
    Recently my wifes work instituted a new policy prohibiting weapons on company property to include personally owned vehicles in the parking lot. She works (did work) in the worst part of the third most dangerous city of the state and has always carried to work. When the company put this new policy in place they threatened that if anyone quit without giving two weeks notice that they would reduce their owed salaries to minimum wage. Needless to say this is unacceptable. Here is her reply to thier new policy.

     

  2. Malum Prohibitum

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    Did they announce these two new policies together, the firearms policy and the reduction in backpay owed policy? I mean, it sounds like they were anticipating people quitting in response to the policy!

    By the way, if one was to quit on the spot, how can they reduce what they previously agreed to pay?

    Can I get a contractor to build a house, and, if he does not agree to a change order near the end, announce that I am going to short him by 75% on the next draw? :D

    Can your family afford the loss of income?

    Is the next employer likley to have a different policy?

    Doesn't your employer have the same policy as your wife's? :wink:

    Think carefully before acting. :sly:
     
  3. Macktee

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    Unfortunately, many companies are going this route on the advice of attorneys and insurance companies trying to reduce liability the companies might inccur should a concealed weapon be used on company property to shoot someone.

    The companies are also caught between the proverbial rock and etc., because as sure as night follows day, every time an employee is shot on company property, that company can expect to be sued for failure to provide adequate security.

    There's pretty good magazine, I used to receive at work, titled "Security" that has an article just about every month about some company paying out large cash settlements for that reason.

    BTW, most shootings at work are not the result of robberies. Most are the result of a non-employee tracking down a former spouse or girlfriend.

    Companies can limit access to the building, but not the parking lots. At least, not very well. Banning guns in parking lots has the effect of disarming at-risk employees.

    The companies can't win, but I think banning legal weapons is particularly stupid as it opens them up to even more liability in the event of a shooting in the lot by an ex.
     
  4. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    While I would like to believe that is true I am unaware of any authority to support such a proposition.
     
  5. Foul

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    What my work place doesn't know doesn't hurt them.


    :twisted:
     
  6. USMC - Retired

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    They did anounce the weapons policy and the wage reduction for quiting without two weeks notice at the same meeting. I fully plan to sue if they follow through on the threat to reduce pay for her quiting on the spot. They can not , in my mind, put a policy in place that puts the employees in danger and then hold thier pay over thier heads if they have the audacity to quit rather than put themselves at risk. We can affoard her to quit no problem and she can get another job without too much trouble (the woman has crazy typing skills, 80+ words a minute!) And yes MP my employer does have a similar policy, the difference being my safety is secured behind gates gaurded by the finest fighting force the world has ever seen! :twisted:
     
  7. tony218

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    the difference being my safety is secured behind gates gaurded by the finest fighting force the world has ever seen!


    gee, gunny i didn't know you worked for the navy. :lol:
     
  8. USMC - Retired

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    Well the Marine Corps is a department of the Navy...


    The MENS department!
     
  9. Macktee

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    "Well the Marine Corps is a department of the Navy...


    The MENS department!
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    Semper Fi,
    The Gunns "



    Hey Gunns:

    A lot of Women Marines would (and many of them probably could) whump your old butt for that remark...

    Watch out!
     
  10. USMC - Retired

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    Nothing against our fine Women Marines. Most of them are more of a man than most Squids I've met... :lol:
     
  11. merlock

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    USMC-R,

    Tell us the name of this dumb-ass company...one more that I can avoid doing business with :evil:
     
  12. USMC - Retired

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    Central Monitoring Systems. It's an alarm services business.
     
  13. Mike from Philly

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    My company has the same policy (no guns anywhere on their property) plus a sign in english and spanish. Buried in the employee manual is a policy that possession of guns on the property including the parking lot is a fireable offense.

    If my wife wanted to carry, I'd tell her to do so but keep it well hidden and never ever tell anyone. If they ask her to search her purse or car, refuse. Let them fire her for that reason. The office, desks, drawers, etc. belong to the company so never put the firearm there, they can look anytime since its their property. If they ask her about possessing a gun, she should reply its against policy blah blah blah. Keep under the radar and she'll be fine. Company's aren't looking for guns, they are looking for drugs, porn, etc.
     
  14. Rammstein

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    I'd be torn between wanting to quit over the new policy and just not giving a damn and carrying anyways. I think it would ultimatly rest on how much I like the job.

    Hell, my current job when I am back from school has a policy against weapons in the parking lot. My response if ever asked about a weapon in my car is "You pay me $8. I am one of you most knowledgeable employees in logistics and I work 50-70 hours per week. My team is rated at 99.98% effectiveness verse the company average of 80.05%. If the gun is going to be a problem then send my last check to my mailing address."
     
  15. tony218

    tony218 New Member

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    just pullin' your leg gunny.
    i have the highest respect for all the branches of
    our armed forces.
     
  16. Manwell

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    My employer does not allow guns on their property or on my person while I’m representing them. They mention disciplinary action that may include termination of employment. I’m not saying that I blatantly ignore their policy, but I don’t do anything that would cause them to ever know that I have a gun or not. Luckily for me, I work remote from the corporate office anyhow.

    Manwell
     
  17. jason1

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    I will give you one company that is anti-gun its Kroger supermarket .I work for them in the employee handbook they put the {no firearm policy}In a section called {workplace violence} here is what it says Associates may not bring firearms or any other weapon onto company premises while on or off the clock.Fighting by Kroger associates while on or off the clock on company premises including parking lots will not be tolerated and will be grounds for discharge for all participants. So they just don't want your money.