I just got a case of 40 S&W's this afternoon that a friend ordered for me at $130/case. I didn't know what brand or anything about them other than they being 180 gr. FMJ's for practice. I find on the boxes, they are remanufactured, by Precision Delta. Is that necessarily bad? I can buy new for $8.50 /box (I think new anyhow) but I figured if they were good enough for LE, they'd be good enough for me to punch holes in paper with! 1000 rounds is a heap of weight too !