Rare handgun confiscated from teen suspected in holdups

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  1. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

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    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... b01_layout

    rare handgun used in more than a dozen holdups across Orange County turns out to be worth more than all the money the suspect wielding it took from his victims, according to Orlando police.

    Confiscated late Wednesday, the 1940 Colt Woodsman pistol was recognized by Det. Matt Deem as the same weapon seen in a series of surveillance videos of convenience store robberies since August.

    "In all the robberies this kid did, you'd probably have to multiply by three just to get to the value of the gun," Deem said, noting that the Colt Woodsman Match Target Bullseye model is worth about $1,800. "I'd love to have it and know where it's been since January 1940. Hell, it might have won Camp Perry (National Rifle & Pistol Championship) for all we know."

    The suspect, Webster Cooper, didn't have a clue what he was carrying, according to police.

    The 19-year-old Orlando resident told detectives he bought the gun on the street.

    "It had a long barrel so it looked scary," said Deem. "The kid started crying and gave up everything."

    Cooper is charged with robbing a Silver Star Road 7-Eleven store on Oct. 5, 25, and 28, arrest records show. He is the lone suspect in at least 15 more armed robberies since early August, police said.

    Videos of the hold-ups show the same man dressed in black with his head wrapped in a blue t-shirt. In each case, the robber holds a long-barrel pistol that Deem first thought was a Ruger Mark II, a much more common .22-caliber target pistol.

    After interviewing Cooper, Deem said he suspects the teen wrapped his head to try to disquise what were described as "big Dumbo ears."

    A store clerk in one of the hold-ups gave police the first clue that the serial robber might be armed with an unusual weapon. The clerk described and drew a picture of what he remembered was a pistol with a flat-sided barrel.

    Colt, Ruger, Browning and High Standard all made .22-caliber target pistols, but these are not as common in crimes as 9 mm. pistols and .38-caliber revolvers, police reports show.

    Valuable guns turn up at crime scenes, but not often.

    "I've recovered some Browning Sweet 16s with cut-off barrels and stocks and it made me want to cry," said Deem said about 16-gauge shotguns worth at least $2,000.

    Police had not been able to determine by this afternoon if the Colt Woodsman had been stolen. Someone had removed the original pistol grips which reduced its value. Recovered stolen guns are destroyed if the legal owner cannot be located.

    Anyone who recognizes the pistol is asked to call CrimeLine at 407-423-8477.

    More than half of all guns stolen in Florida and across the U.S. are never reported as stolen because gun owners don't record the serial numbers, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tabacco, Firearms and Explosives and Orlando Sentinel research.

    In 2001, Florida ranked fifth nationally with 7,434 stolen guns reported to the National Crime Information Center, which collects statistics on thefts of firearms with known serial numbers.
     
  2. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

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    Man I wonder if the detective will get heat for that comment.....
     

  3. VolGrad

    VolGrad Tactical Statistician

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  4. Sharky

    Sharky Active Member

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    yes that was sarcasm on my part......dry sense of humor i have
     
  5. pro2am

    pro2am New Member

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    Obviously the detective is a lover of guns to make a comment about "wanting to make him cry".
     
  6. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Why? :?
     
  7. Sharky

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    Sounds like potential revenue if you ask me!!!!! Sell em!
     
  8. ptsmith24

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    :lol:
     
  9. viper32cm

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    Sounds like the detective is a gun guy.
     
  10. fallison

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    For the children!
     
  11. Fallschirmjäger

    Fallschirmjäger I watch the watchers

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    "Murderer used gun bought from LittleCity Police Department to kill innocent teen who was 'just about to turn his life around'"... is the most probable reason. No department wants to read That in the next morning's headlines.
     
  12. Mafuta54

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    I asked the Powder Springs Police and was told that they do not want to put more guns out on the street!!
     
  13. Macktee

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    Those are some really good reasons for not selling confiscated guns all right.

    Here's another one.

    Imagine the reaction of any city's attorney or insurance company upon being informed.

    A confiscated gun sold by the city had been used in a crime.

    The victim is suing the city.

    For a gozillion dollars in damages...!




    Can you say apoplexy boys and girls?

    :bigshock:


    Valuable guns rarely turn up in these situations, but it does seem a shame they can't be sold. Guns with some value to collectors shouldn't be melted down. When I think of the really, really, really nice old firearms destroyed in England, Canada and Australia, it makes me wanna cry!

    #-o :cry: :screwy:
     
  14. USMC - Retired

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    Headline:

    "Rare 1968 Shelby Mustang to be melted down after being stolen and used in hit and run..."

    :puke:

    "Mona Lisa to be destroyed following theft and subsiquent recovery in effort to halt increasing number of counterfit Mona Lisa sales"

    :puke:

    "The T.I. E. bought at auction then destroyed for the greater good of humanity"

    OK, that one I can live with... 8)
     
  15. Sharky

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    I think the LEO departments should sell them to FFL dealers or something. Thus releasing any guilt or whatever you want to call it. At that point the dealer can sell it as normal.

    I just dont see destroying pieces of history. Just because bad people did bad things with objects, doesnt mean the objects are bad :D

    Like USMC pointed out the 68 Shelby! That is a piece of history with an idiot behind the wheel.
     
  16. gsusnake

    gsusnake Token Liberal Hippie

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    At least give the gun nut deputy or officer a chance to adopt it. At least it's not "out on the streets" and not destroyed.
     
  17. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh, no! They are going to disarm all their officers? That is a terrible idea!
     
  18. SigP229

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    He liked that store.
     
  19. SigP229

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    They said he commited 3 robberies at the same store plus he commited 15 others.....that's like $33.33 per robbery....kid needs a bigger gun :D
     
  20. viper32cm

    viper32cm New Member

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    I wonder if they'd take a trade. :D