Presidential Frontrunners on Guns

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  1. Malum Prohibitum

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    http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/article3493.html

    Early 2008 Presidential Contenders: Pick your gun control poison

    By Chad D. Baus

    Traditionally, whomever is leading in polling one year ahead of the Presidential primaries becomes the eventual party nominee. If tradition holds true...there is a storm on the horizon...

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Republican
    All gun owners should pass written test
    "I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they’re intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we’re talking about all dangerous weapons."
    Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000


    Arizona Senator John McCain, Republican
    Ban cheap guns; require safety locks; supports gun show checks & "smart" gun technology
    McCain favors outlawing cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials, and favors mandating safety locks on certain guns. He said he is intrigued by new technology that electronically identifies a person handling a gun, allowing only the owner to fire it. McCain rallied Senate Republicans behind a Democratic measure requiring background checks at gun shows.
    Source: Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press Aug 17, 1999

    Supports ban on certain assault weapons
    McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details.
    Source: Los Angeles Times, “McCain Calls for Hearings†Aug 17, 1999


    And those are just the top-polling Republicans!

    New York Senator Hillary Clinton, Democrat
    Keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them
    "We need to stand firm on behalf of sensible gun control legislation. We have to enact laws that will keep guns out of the hand of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced persons. Congress should have acted before our children started going back to school. I realize the NRA is a formidable political group; but I believe the American people are ready to come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have them."
    Source: www.hillary2000.org, "Gun Safety" Sep 9, 2000

    License and register all handgun sales
    Hillary Rodham Clinton offered her support for a legislative proposal to license hand guns. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer, would require anyone who wants to purchase a gun to obtain a state-issued photo gun license. "I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun," Clinton said. "I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing."
    Source: CNN.com Jun 2, 2000

    Gun control protects our children
    We will not make progress on a sensible gun control agenda unless the entire American public gets behind it. It is really important for each of you [kids] to make sure you stay away from guns. If you have guns in your home, tell your parents to keep them away from you and your friends and your little brothers and sisters.
    Source: Forum at South Side Middle School in Nassau County Jul 15, 1999

    Too many guns
    We have to do everything possible to keep guns out of the hands of children, and we need to stand firm on behalf of the sensible gun control legislation that passed the Senate and then was watered down in the House. It does not make sense for us at this point in our history to turn our backs on the reality that there are too many guns and too many children have access to those guns-and we have to act to prevent that.
    Source: Remarks to NEA in Orlando, Florida Jul 5, 1999

    Lock up guns; store ammo separately
    If you own a gun... make sure it's locked up and stored without the ammunition. In fact, make it stored where the ammunition is stored separately. We've made some progress in the last several years with the Brady Bill and some of the bans on assault weapons, but we have a lot of work to do.
    Source: ABC's "Good Morning America" Jun 4, 1999

    Illinois Senator Barack Obama, Democrat
    Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
    "Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
    Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
    Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
    Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms."
    Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998

    Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
    A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others.
    Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005


    Hopes for gun owners obviously need to come from farther down in the polls.

    Ranking at #3 on the Democrat side, and the only other Democrat candidate polling in double-digits, is none other than Albert Gore Jr. For those who have already forgotten the Clinton years, Al Gore is on record supporting a handgun licensing scheme, 3-day waiting periods, stronger assault weapons bans, banning inexpensive handguns, closing the gun show "loophole", making trigger locks mandatory, and issuing a nationwide 1-gun per month rule. At a Democrat debate in Los Angeles on Mar 1, 2000, Gore proudly said "I was a co-sponsor of the Brady Law. I cast the tie-breaking vote to close the so-called gun show loophole. The NRA has targeted me as a result. We have got to take them on strongly and pass new gun control legislation...aimed...at these handguns that are causing so much distress in our country." And at another Democrat debate in Harlem, NYC on Feb 21, 2000, Gore proudly proclaimed that "the Clinton-Gore administration has passed the toughest gun control measures in the last 30 years."

    Ranking in at #3 on the GOP side, and the only other Republican candidate polling in double-digits, is Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice. Rice is on record as saying that gun rights are as important as free speech, and that her staunch defense of gun rights comes from memories of Birmingham's racial turmoil, when her father and other neighborhood men took up arms and guarded the streets at night to keep white vigilantes at bay. Unfortunately, Rice has repeatedly said she is not interested in the top job.

    Persons interested in knowing more about efforts to encourage Condoleeza Rice, the only top-polling candidate that is pro-gun, to run for President, may visit:

    http://www.4condi.com/

    http://www.rice2008.com/

    http://www.condoleezzaforpresident.com/

    Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Northwest Ohio Chair and a Fulton County Republican Central Commiteeman.
     
  2. Adam5

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    By the looks of this, things aren't looking to good for the '08 White House.

    "Ranking in at #3 on the GOP side, and the only other Republican candidate polling in double-digits, is Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice. Rice is on record as saying that gun rights are as important as free speech, and that her staunch defense of gun rights comes from memories of Birmingham's racial turmoil, when her father and other neighborhood men took up arms and guarded the streets at night to keep white vigilantes at bay. Unfortunately, Rice has repeatedly said she is not interested in the top job."

    This I can agree with !!!
     

  3. Rammstein

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    I wish she would run.
     
  4. gunsbillygun

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    boy are we in for a ride
     
  5. Gunstar1

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    And not the good kind either. :(
     
  6. Adam5

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    I'll agree with that. I'm not sure that I like any of the upcoming choices.
     
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    Tancredo will likely run :drink:
     
  8. gunsbillygun

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    were is JOHN WAYNE when you need him :shoot:
     
  9. slabertooch

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    Or Moses ( plants tongue firmly in cheek).

    All kidding aside, doesn't look to good, the only thing we can hope for is to elect a President that Congress won't work with and vice-versa, and hope for better choices next term. A strong Republican President, and a strong Democratic Congress will ensure that nothing gets done. :twisted:
     
  10. Rammstein

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    Because she is a very bright woman.

    I think that if hillary runs, Condi should run to counter her.
     
  11. Gunstar1

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    There is no way Hillary will win. (besides didn't she already have 2 terms in office)
    I don't see a woman winning the presidency any time soon.
    I also believe we will probably see a black man as President before a white woman. Which means my outlook on Rice's chances are about as good as Billary.


    Heard an old joke on the radio...
    If "Clinton" is the answer, then it was a stupid question.
     
  12. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    Obamanation:

    http://www.casperstartribune.net/articl ... n7q3o0.txt
     
  13. Gunstar1

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    I laughed at that one.
     
  14. Malum Prohibitum

    Malum Prohibitum Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not original. It is either posted somewhere here or it was in an email I received.

    What is the new name of the country if Barak Obama is elected?

    I have been telling people around the office it is his campaign pledge to change the name of the country if elected. "To what?" they ask.

    Obamanation!

    :lol:
     
  15. viper32cm

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    Well I think its worth putting things in perspective here folks:

    The NFA was passed in 1934, this was the first significant nationwide restriction on gun rights. US v. Miller essentially evicerated the law, but no one reads the case right.

    For the next 70 years things got worse and worse:
    GCA 1968
    GCA 1986
    922(r)
    Brady Bill
    AWB 1994

    BUT
    In 2004 something happened that had never happened before, things got better. The useless AWB 1994 sunsetted. For the first time in 70 years a large portion of federal gun control leglislation went away.

    They say it only takes on trickle to destroy a dam, prehaps they are right. But I do know this. We got LUCKY. In the name of progress the Re-auth for the AWB would have been much worse, and quite frankly the only reason there hasn't been a credible attempt at another AWB has been because everyone is too busy with a president that most liberals hate for other reasons with a burning passion. We stand at a precipice. Somehow we are just barely leaning on the side of rights. Nothing major has changed elsewhere, we have a media that is solidly against our rights, roughly 1 and 1/2 political parties that don't care about us or are actively hostile, and a president which pledged to sign the AWB back into law.

    Out of the list of the best hopefuls on either side I don't care who you vote for D or R, it's going to be the same mess. Sure the D's would be quicker but put a McClown or Guliani in there and it'll be the same thing just a little slower.

    If we can stay unscathed for the next two years and win the house and senate back in 2008 along with the presidency we stand a much better chance of surviving. Hell, I'd even take us off life support, but as it stands that's what we are, on life support. The only reason we can still buy those "No-ban" ak's and ar's and proper capacity magazines is because no one has cared to notice us with our hand in OUR "cookie jar"

    I'm afraid all the shall issue legislation in the world won't help us if the feds legislate the right to own out of existence.

    Fight every election like it's the last.
     
  16. Malum Prohibitum

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    You forgot 922(q) . . .