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Two day precision rifle course taught by Robert Brantley at The Arena Training Facility in Blakely, Georgia.


This is an excellent training facility that has everything you need for any kind of weapons training and caters to military customers (everything from enough acreage on the ground for airborne assaults to close quarters indoor battle with catwalks for instructors overhead, to a 40 foot tall shooting platform with about a mile and a half shooting range).

The class starts with the fundamentals, setting up your equipment, how to use a data solver, setting up your rifle and optics for your own body, obtaining a zero on the rifle, muzzle velocity, and so on, before proceeding out to the UKD range and engaging targets at distance.

We then shot, starting off the bench with a bipod and sand bag, at various distances, starting at 400 yards or so and moving out to 619, 850, and then . . . The course went to 1217 yards (3651 feet, so over half a mile, .6914772 miles), and I was pretty easily engaging the man-sized target, so I ended up switching over to what I called "The Little Piggy" and found I could hit that, too.

Reading the wind was emphasized heavily during this portion. This turned out to be more difficult than I thought. I assumed that if the wind is blowing left to right, that it changes the point of impact to the right, and that is all. I was not aware that it also changes the elevation, and the change is different depending upon the direction of the wind. This does not really show up at the distances I had shot previously (out to about 525 yards), but it does show up beyond that.

Then we moved to positional shooting off various barricades, like the skill set barricade, the stairs, rocks, and so on. Robert Brantley spent a good deal of time with us on getting on target more quickly and being more stable in positions, which are the main reasons I took the course.

I improved in every way, and reached out much further than I ever had.

My rifle went down during the course. It appears that bad primers (half a dozen were pierced) blew metal back and killed my trigger, so that the gun fired when chambering.

The instructor, Robert Brantley, had not only a new trigger with him, but ammunition to fit my gun (minus the defective primers), so we tore it down and got it back up and running. He also had the owners of the action company and the trigger company on speed dial and was able to speak and text them, on a weekend, to narrow down the cause of the malfunction and get the rifle running again. He reached out to a contact at Hornady, but they did not reply over the weekend.

Recommendation - this class was outstanding. If you are interested in getting into precision rifle, I recommend taking a course from Robert. It is not a problem if you do not have a rifle. He brings with him at least four rifles properly equipped for precision rifle shooting. In fact, I used one while my rifle was down - Trump Stick 1, a Defiance action and Bartlein barrel on a custom red, white and blue camouflage Manners stock, which I understand is the only one of the series of three not in the hands of a Trump family member (Eric and Donald Jr. own the other two). it is visible in the photograph below.

Do not hesitate to take a class from Robert Brantley. He is serious about teaching, and he alters his course to meet the needs of the students in front of him and address those needs.


Me shooting off the rocks Sunday. Kneepads, but still cut up my knees (you can see the right one is slipped down, but I kept at what I was doing). That is a mud and rock slope under me with over six feet of change in elevation. We were learning here to engage two targets at two different distances from five different positions. Get on target, stability, holdover, etc., were skills being developed here under the watchful eye of an experienced instructor.


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That sounds like a great course. Did the instructor say anything about that ammo being prone to to doing that?
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Reading the wind was emphasized heavily during this portion. This turned out to be more difficult than I thought. I assumed that if the wind is blowing left to right, that it changes the point of impact to the right, and that is all. I was not aware that it also changes the elevation, and the change is different depending upon the direction of the wind. This does not really show up at the distances I had shot previously (out to about 525 yards), but it does show up beyond that.
I'm surprised that you were not aware of this. I told you about the wind and coriolis effect several days ago in another thread.
Wind at that distance plays an important role as well. If you have a right hand twist barrel the bullet will tend to rise if the wind is from the right. This is due to the clockwise rotation of the bullet in flight. Wind from the left will cause the bullet to drop faster. There is also the Coriolis effect. This is the rotation of the earth while the bullet is in flight and the weather modified by it. Shooting east to west or west to east the distance the target travels away from the bullet in flight is smaller than if north to south or south to north. The Coriolis effect can make for some interesting long distance shooting. The farther out you reach the more deflection you will have. With practice a compass will help you estimate the the amount of defection you can expect and set your MIL to compensate.
That sounds like a great course. Did the instructor say anything about that ammo being prone to to doing that?
It was a great course. I definitely received my money's worth, and then some.

The owner of Impact Precision mentioned that there had been a bad batch of primers from Hornady on its 6mm GT ammo, but he thought it was a while ago and that it had been taken care of.

The intructor sent the lot number to his contact at Hornady. We'll see what they say.

Trigger Tech covered the trigger under their warranty and agreed to ship it to Robert, so we installed the new one in my rifle, and he has a new one coming for his stock.

Note that Trigger Tech covered the trigger with no hesitation even though we informed them that the trigger was killed by the defective ammunition, not by some inherent defect in the trigger. They thanked us for our honesty and immediately said it was covered and that they will ship a new trigger.

Wow.
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It was a great course. I definitely received my money's worth, and then some.

The owner of Impact Precision mentioned that there had been a bad batch of primers from Hornady on its 6mm GT ammo, but he thought it was a while ago and that it had been taken care of.

The intructor sent the lot number to his contact at Hornady. We'll see what they say.

Trigger Tech covered the trigger under their warranty and agreed to ship it to Robert, so we installed the new one in my rifle, and he has a new one coming for his stock.

Note that Trigger Tech covered the trigger with no hesitation even though we informed them that the trigger was killed by the defective ammunition, not by some inherent defect in the trigger. They thanked us for our honesty and immediately said it was covered and that they will ship a new trigger.

Wow.
Sounds like the old Craftsman tool Unconditional warranty. I once took a Craftsman socket and used a 2 pound hammer to drive it onto a bolt just a little too large for it to fit. Got the bolt out but split the socket and the bolt was permanently attached to the socket. Took it to Sears told them how it happened. They said it still should not have broken and replaced anyway.
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I see nothing on their website regarding costs for that type course. Give us an idea.

Good to see they have W/E hookup for a camper. 6 sites.

Nemo
That course was $500 for the two days, but, like I said, well worth it. I definitely received my money's worth, and more.

Keep in mind that this is not like your typical crowded handgun course.

There were six of us. Do the math and figure in the cost of a top tier facility like that, and you can see he does this more for love than money.
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Excellent price. I might have to work on figuring in a stop there on my next circle around the U.S.

Nemo
Is this just for people wanting to get better at prs? Were there any people there with a .308. 1217 yards is kinda stretching with a .308 but it’s all I have.
Hunt around for a good Mosin rifle. If you have Russian or Finninh blood in you they can be good out to 900 meters.

Nemo
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Is this just for people wanting to get better at prs? Were there any people there with a .308. 1217 yards is kinda stretching with a .308 but it’s all I have.
1217 is not a stretch for .308. While I never knowingly shot past 1200 even that is an easy reach for .308. The Remington 700 in .308 dubbed the M24 is/was the military issued sniper rifle.
Awesome! Long distance rifle is not my discipline, but I am amazed at what you are doing and how quickly you have progressed. Great work.

I am guessing my bone stock 30-06 Savage hunting rifle with a entry level kit scope that came as a packaged deal would not come close to cutting it in that sport.
Is this just for people wanting to get better at prs? Were there any people there with a .308. 1217 yards is kinda stretching with a .308 but it’s all I have.
Heh. As I was reading and saw that, my only thought was “technically my .45-70 goes that far but I don’t have the flip-up site for the angle needed”. I’d need a new caliber to participate.
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When I last zeroed my rifle, I only had an indoor range available to me. So I was limited to the shorter distance and had to do math to work out the aim point vs point of impact to simulate my desired distance. At the end of the session, my final confirmation shot put a 30-06 round directly through the sharpie dot in the center of my calculated impact point. I was quite pleased. Granted that was bench rested on an indoor range. The wind and coriolis effect is rough y'all, I swear ;-p j/k
Yeah, those fans, filters, and other air moving devices can cause all kinds of problems. Coriolis was out in the sun that day so he did not matter. Just remember windage.

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1217 is not a stretch for .308. While I never knowingly shot past 1200 even that is an easy reach for .308. The Remington 700 in .308 dubbed the M24 is/was the military issued sniper rifle.
For man size gongs it’s probably ok. I think for precision hits (1 moa or less), the .308 is easily outclassed at that distance
Is this just for people wanting to get better at prs? Were there any people there with a .308. 1217 yards is kinda stretching with a .308 but it’s all I have.
(A) The instructor used a .308 in demonstrating some portions of the course.

(B) PRS has a Tactical class that is limited to .308 and .223. So, in other words, you would be in your own class and not competing against the new 6mm cartridges or even 6.5.

(C) One of the best shooters at the River Bend Precision Rifle Match, Mike Russo, uses a .308 and sometimes has the best score, even better than the Open class competitors (but the furthest targets at River Bend are 525 yards).
For man size gongs it’s probably ok. I think for precision hits (1 moa or less), the .308 is easily outclassed at that distance
Haven't shot PSR much have you?
No I’d be lucky to even spell it. I guess I need to educate myself by looking up what people are using.
looking up what people are using.
Tactical class is using .308 or .223 only.

Sniper's Hide is a good forum to research. Lots of PRS shooters over there posting, and the site is generally aimed at long range precision shooting.
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